DPS display could easily be solved with a system already in game.

[nuyu11]

Now we can kick people for bad DPS...
I think I'm also on the list...

[Jamein]

ITT: People who don't use parsers, who have never used parsers complaining and shouting about how they think people who do use parsers will act (pun intended). Assuming everyone will just be a grade A douchnozzle.

I can tell you right now if you have ever been in a PF group for end game raiding, at least one person in about 90% of those groups will be parsing, and more than likely at least one other person in that group would have been underperforming, and 9/10 no one will have said a damn thing to anyone about it or even cared enough if the content was getting cleared.

But hey that one guy who said that one thing one time about that one persons DPS, OH MY GOD BAN PARSERS EVERYONE WILL BE ALL 'MUST DO 600+ DPS OR KICK.'

Whether its my PF group or someone elses, I've done hundreds upon hundreds of PF group runs, want to know how many times I have kicked someone for their DPS? ZERO. even when some were pulling absolutely abysmal DPS. Because others made up for it and I knew it was the mechanics causing more wipes than the DPS, or because I knew it was enough to clear. Stop screaming that people will be kicking you left and right.

Sorry, but the people complaining in here seem to be the ones who have zero end game raiding experience, or who don't care for end game raiding or DPS, which is absolutely fine. Parsers aren't needed in your WoD/Expert roulette/Chocobo racing I don't think any of us really care if they disbaled the parser for that, but in end game raiding it's an absolutely amazing tool to use and gives you some great information, not just for whose not pulling DPS, but where they are struggling, what phase and why. You don't use a parser to just straight up kick people, you use it to improve both yourself and the group. Sure some people will abuse it, but those are the same people who put up those PF's that say '1 MISTAKE AND KICK NO N00BS PRO ONLY PLZ' that no one even joins anyway.

Stop assuming all people who parse are morons who will out you for your DPS, you'e been parsed multiple times before and no one will have said a damn thing to you in game or out or even simply kicked you without saying anything, maybe one person here and there but blame the people more than anything. No one really cares what you are doing they care more about their own parse than yours. Unless you are the reason for not clearing content in which case give your self entitlement a check because if you are causing 7 other people to not clear and wipe multiple times, you need stop being selfish and back out of the group and go get a learning party.

[Sebazy]

Look, I appreciate numbers, but I just don't want it becoming the newest rage to wall off and shame people.

I keep hearing this, and yet I still never see it actually happen.

[Asierid]

I keep hearing this, and yet I still never see it actually happen.

Ding. You are correct.

Let's watch everyone make assumptions about things we know nothing about when it clearly serves its purpose in other games. Disregarding evidence, personal feelings first of course. That is what this forum is about, rite?

[MythToken]

If we do get parsers, I hope they are as cool as this one.





That's just real nice.

[FrejyaAthenes]

If we do get parsers, I hope they are as cool as this one.





That's just real nice.

That would be cool. The more data, the better.

[SDaemon]

I keep hearing this, and yet I still never see it actually happen.

Not surprising. In XIV open talk (i.e outside friends, guilds, statics) of using parsers and parsing of other players can land you in trouble with GMs. In games where their use is open and allowed it's common practice.

[Magusrex]

I'm sorry, there is only one conclusion I can wrap my brain around as why people don't want them and it isn't good. People who perform well and continually try to improve themselves all want them fairly universally. People who don't want them don't want others to know how bad they are performing. I know meters cause some poor behavior that might cause wipes but I will take wipes due to people trying to top meters over wipes because people don't care about their performance any day.

The use of meters will inspire some people to get better gear and learn their job better because they want to be at the top, we all benefit. Some people will improve enough so they are not always at the bottom, we all benefit. Some people will not queue for group content anymore because they are always at the bottom, most of us benefit. Some people may stop playing entirely, sadly, most of will still benefit. Some people's feelings will get hurt, not a benefit at all but "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

[Kallera]

I'm sorry, there is only one conclusion I can wrap my brain around as why people don't want them and it isn't good. People who perform well and continually try to improve themselves all want them fairly universally. People who don't want them don't want others to know how bad they are performing. I know meters cause some poor behavior that might cause wipes but I will take wipes due to people trying to top meters over wipes because people don't care about their performance any day.

A little early to ready the blacklist, eh?

[SDaemon]

The use of meters will inspire some people to get better gear and learn their job better because they want to be at the top, we all benefit. Some people will improve enough so they are not always at the bottom, we all benefit. Some people will not queue for group content anymore because they are always at the bottom, most of us benefit. Some people may stop playing entirely, sadly, most of will still benefit. Some people's feelings will get hurt, not a benefit at all but "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

LOL

1. That if far to optimistic and severely idealistic.
2. Someone will always be at the bottom.
3. This is a major reason why open use of parsers is bad.
4. An even bigger reason.
5. And yet another reason, trend?
6. This grossly assumes who is the majority and who is the minority and whose needs should be met.