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    Massterchef's Avatar
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    That takes some serious mental gymnastics to arrive at that answer.
    No it doesn't. Kicking people for the inability to perform their role is something that is generally accepted DF included. Majority of the situations that people usually justify kicking for lack of performance are bad tanking/healing and not DPS. The fact that a question has to be asked whether is it acceptable to kick a DPS for being incapable of fulfilling his role is what I'm suggesting is the double standard whether you view it that way or not. If you believe that everyone should be held accountable then good for you. That doesn't mean the double standard doesn't exist in the context of this thread.
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    Elusana_Celah's Avatar
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    N'ico Yazawa
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    No it doesn't. Kicking people for the inability to perform their role is something that is generally accepted DF included.
    I dunno, we had a really really god awful tank in a Halatali normal run once when I was leveling dragoon. So I equipped provoke and some enmity cross skills and proceeded to protect the healer and tank bosses cuz the tank could not hold hate at all. I used to try to help people learn but I have had too many experiences where i was being as nice as possible with my approach and I was met with "stfu" attitude. So instead of kicking the tank and waiting around for a new tank, I picked up his slack and we beat the dungeon.

    What I feel the problem is is too many people are oversensitive to criticism. I feel like at times I can't be nice enough to someone and they would STILL turn hostile towards me. You have to accept criticism or you will never self-improve... Or at least be able to criticize yourself so you can see your flaws. A perfect example was this T12 group I was in. I watch the fireball go through our melee DPS and we wiped cuz of it so I immediately said,

    "I guess melee DPS is in a zone and I ain't talking about the Auto Zone".
    The dragoon says, "????"
    I said, "The fireball blew up right next to you guys."
    He said, "STFU The fireball passed right through us. Ohhh ohhh it's the melee DPS. Fkin our fault it can't be anyone else's fault."

    And he just ranted on and on and on and on and on until I just called an abandon on the duty and it passed. Like really? That's why we have a player skill issue.
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    Last edited by Elusana_Celah; 05-05-2015 at 06:24 AM.

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    Player kpxmanifesto's Avatar
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    Last Starfighter
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    No it doesn't. Kicking people for the inability to perform their role is something that is generally accepted DF included. Majority of the situations that people usually justify kicking for lack of performance are bad tanking/healing and not DPS. The fact that a question has to be asked whether is it acceptable to kick a DPS for being incapable of fulfilling his role is what I'm suggesting is the double standard whether you view it that way or not. If you believe that everyone should be held accountable then good for you. That doesn't mean the double standard doesn't exist in the context of this thread.
    You went completely off topic. When did I ever mention tanks and healer roles at all? You're not getting the point I brought up whatsoever. I said nothing even remotely close that even resembled me condoning a double standard. You do know what a rhetorical question is, right? The point I brought up flew over your head completely. All that typing you just did for no reason.

    My original topic: Nothing I said shows that I personally hold a double standard, yet you accuse me of it.
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    Last edited by kpxmanifesto; 05-05-2015 at 06:44 AM.