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    Ghasto's Avatar
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    Marina Amrita
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    He can think that, but he just needs to come out and say it.
    I did say it, any party leader is well within their right to remove a player that is not playing to their standard.
    In the case of healers and tanks it's obvious, with DPS it is not, this is where parsing comes into play.
    Why don't you petition SE to also remove the party list from showing to anyone but the healers so nobody knows that they're not healing? or hide the enmity list from anyone who is not a tank?
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    FrejyaAthenes's Avatar
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    Freyja Alfodr
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghasto View Post
    I did say it, any party leader is well within their right to remove a player that is not playing to their standard.
    In the case of healers and tanks it's obvious, with DPS it is not, this is where parsing comes into play.
    Why don't you petition SE to also remove the party list from showing to anyone but the healers so nobody knows that they're not healing? or hide the enmity list from anyone who is not a tank?
    Ideally isn't that there to let the other party members know when to pull back a bit? Least that's what I've done. I mean, I get what you're saying, but that sounds like more of a detriment than not having a dps meter.
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    MirielleLavandre's Avatar
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    Gabrielle Beausejour
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghasto View Post
    Why don't you petition SE to also remove the party list from showing to anyone but the healers so nobody knows that they're not healing? or hide the enmity list from anyone who is not a tank?
    Honestly, as a WHM main, people would know if I'm doing my job correctly by if they die or not, with or without the party window. Same for tank - people don't need anything at all to know whether or not they are holding mob aggro or not. For both tank and healer, failure or success is clearly present just by the fight itself and by either wiping or clearing. DPS, however, can just slide by with no one knowing how well they are doing or not doing, apart from how fast or slow things die (or enrage timers - but even then, we can't know which dps is pulling their weight).

    I think it a little unfair that I can be judged by how well I heal or tank with no meter or list needed whatsoever, but dps don't need to be held equally accountable. For this reason alone I'd support in game parsers -- for equality sake ^^
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    You can actually see how big your numbers are and how often they come. Its really not that hard. Its how we did it in the old days, when we didn't have parsers =P
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    Vivian Grimelka
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    Diabolos
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    You can actually see how big your numbers are and how often they come. Its really not that hard. Its how we did it in the old days, when we didn't have parsers =P
    Have fun sifting through your battle log then.
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