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  1. #211
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    Rocond's Avatar
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    Rocond Valnor
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadray View Post
    I don't see a problem with the way it is now, everyone has them, you can talk about them with friends, but you can't target people in game with the results.

    What's the problem?
    You're right. This whole discussion is pointless for the most part. People that care about it already have parsers. Even if they introduced an in-game dps meter of some sort, people would still use a 3rd party parser because i'm sure it would still offer more. All these people scared of them because they think their bad dps would be revealed does not matter. People that care already see their bad dps.

    The only legitimate complaint on the topic would be that console users don't have access to a parser.
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  2. #212
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadray View Post
    I don't see a problem with the way it is now, everyone has them, you can talk about them with friends, but you can't target people in game with the results.

    What's the problem?
    <---- PS4
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  3. #213
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    Raikki Zero
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    Jenova
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Totally serious not-joking first party solution: "optional" first-party instance DPS meter. Throw an option in the menu to specify if you're pro-meter, anti-meter, or indifferent, and then never let anti-meter and pro-meter people get matched together in DF or join PFs that conflict with their preference. If you enter an instance with an all pro-meter/indifferent party, you get an official first-party meter, and if you enter with all anti-meter/indifferent you don't.

    Certainly nobody anti-meter could complain about not being allowed to join PF because their preference conflicts since you didn't want to play with the pro-meter people in the first place, right?

    (OK maybe I was joking a little)
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  4. #214
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    Spawnie's Avatar
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    Agreed people might notice I afk after using a 1 button macro that attacks every 20 seconds in CT/ST.
    lol im a noob with that stuff didnt even know what macro was b4 started playing ff14 XD n dont even use any in game :P
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  5. #215
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DracotheDragon View Post
    ...training dummies do not have the same defence value's of t13 so thats useless, t13 itself has higher defence...
    Quite incorrect.
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  6. #216
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    Storm Rider
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 60
    I am not sure why this comes up again and again.

    POINT 1 Can you send a tell in dungeon? NO, supposed reason harassment.

    Why would they give you a tool if they don't even trust you with tells?
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  7. #217
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    That's cuz I don't care for Coil gear. Does that make me a bad player? Did I have the luxury of having a static back than? Being overgear doesn't mean jack to insta kill mechanics. Do I play competitively? Do I care how I approach a fight? All answers to these questions are No because I don't care what anyone thinks on how I play.
    None of this is relevant to the fact that you have no perspective on DPS checks, raiding , or parsers. You can be ignorant of everything but you don't really add much value to this conversation by saying "I play how I want".
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  8. #218
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Irie View Post
    So yeah, I'm all up for parsers, but I don't think that an ig implementation would change anything. Ppl who want to improve, will improve and those who just want "to play for fun" will stay where they are right now complaining on the forums about "elitists" not carrying them through content that's "too hard" for them.
    Fixed for truth :P
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  9. #219
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Fixed for truth :P
    Hilarious bias is hilarious
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  10. #220
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    I am not sure why this comes up again and again.

    POINT 1 Can you send a tell in dungeon? NO, supposed reason harassment.

    Why would they give you a tool if they don't even trust you with tells?
    I remember when we couldn't have Vote Dismiss or Vote Abandon because people would abuse it... Never mind the fact that this thread has numerous workarounds to such potential harassment.
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