DPS display could easily be solved with a system already in game.

[FrejyaAthenes]

I like this, But only if it was self info.

IE.

When you exit. It rates you vs other without telling you others.

DPS you did X amount of dmg, you took X amount, you ranked 3rd.

Without knowing the other ranks.

This would be enough for some people that are always ranked 7th 8th to go what am I doing wrong and change how they play to better themselves.

How about a sytem where it takes your avg dps per boss fight and instead of just comparing to the other party members it just tells you the avg dps of players of your lvl/job? Because just comparing to the party doesn't mean much if the whole party's garbage.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

You can actually see how big your numbers are and how often they come. Its really not that hard. Its how we did it in the old days, when we didn't have parsers =P

[siverstorm]

You can actually see how big your numbers are and how often they come. Its really not that hard. Its how we did it in the old days, when we didn't have parsers =P

Have fun sifting through your battle log then.

[Massterchef]

the 1% lol, so many things wrong with this line of thinking.

A solution that helps everyone is better than something that alienates the player base.

Also all the end game raiding in this game literally = mechanics > than all

You, like the others that oppose this idea haven't experienced end game raiding at it's most difficult because you attempt the content when you over-gear it and when it's fully nerfed with echo. You still haven't completed FCOB so how are you downplaying raiding to just mechanics? You don't understand what it is to not meet a DPS check because you rarely if ever attempt content when it comes out.

More access to the information doesn't open the door to abuse because the people you are currently worried about that kick for under performing already have access to the information and do it.

[Saseal]

I'd only want it as a self check to improve myself, definitely. I wouldn't mind one to use for myself.

I like to challenge myself to beat myself out. I honestly don't trust how others would react to anyone's performance information, regardless how well or bad the stats were. It's too easy for targeting a player who may be new, learning an alt, trolled midway (looking at you, feint particle beam mob hustlers and ice orb puddle standers), accidents or etc. I'm usually already beating myself up when I mess up - I don't need people to do the same thing. People who don't want to improve themselves are going to ignore the check regardless who does or doesn't see it. People who do want to improve themselves will. So this is why I really would like having a personal parser - so I can do my own fine tuning while avoiding the trolls.

It would be nice for other players to see the stats and give you advice if they see the DPS/etc being low - but lets face it, the world isn't nice. It would be food for trolls and griefers to go after people - which is just a counterproductive feature to a tool made for being productive. As it is, people aren't always that helpful when someone struggles.

Not really wanting to get into the whole debate about low DPS and kicking and advising and etc - I'm just stating how I feel about the idea of a parser.

I want the parser, but I don't want the grief.
But I do have a possible idea?

How about this - At the end, a window showing lvl/ilvl and your healing/DPS/Defensive scores (based on your job, or not) - and then comparing to the dungeon/trial/raid's average (collected from scores of other random players of similar level - or ilvl if it's level 50 content - that have gone through the dungeon over the past x days) for your role - AND only shown to you, about you. You then have something to compare it to so you can see if you're doing average (and those that don't want to be average can start looking into adjusting their rotation/hunting for info or advice), below average (and again look to better yourself) or above average - in which case, 'good jeorbs'.
I figured 'averages' for dungeons so that it's not directly comparing yourself to the other party members, but rather a % of players - to avoid some of the issues people were stating earlier (player harassment, etc).

Or, if you REALLY wanted comparisons within the party, perhaps bring up the screen AFTER the duty is over (I guess this would only work in DF and not in PF since there would be no anonymity after the run ends in PF) so the people can see the numbers, but not be harassed or do any harassing (or low chance of it). If they want to better themselves, that's still a conscious thought and drive they would have to have regardless if they saw the stats with or without the rest of the party there. People that don't want to just won't, regardless the advice or information given.

[kpxmanifesto]

Would kicking people for bad tanking or healing be allowable in DF groups? Why the double standard?

That question was purely rhetorical, thank you very much. No need to be edgy with an accusation of a double standard. By the way, I don't even see anybody bringing that up in this thread.

[Steady]

I always find that the people most opposed to DPS Parsers/Checkers are often the ones that don't even do the content which it'd be most widely used.

Why anyone who is a DPS would be afraid to know their DPS just suggests to me that they shouldn't be playing that role.

There are tools already that exist to parse, they just require you to have a computer to use them. Hell if your that concerned about it.. give an option to "Hide Dps" you can click.

[Rath]

SE designs all of the content with a specific dps output required to beat it. All they need is to have a popup when a duty is completed or fail telling you if you need improvement,are doing satisfactory, or you are exceeding expectations. Nobody else needs to see it

[DGladius]

SE designs all of the content with a specific dps output required to beat it. All they need is to have a popup when a duty is completed or fail telling you if you need improvement,are doing satisfactory, or you are exceeding expectations. Nobody else needs to see it

People need to see other people's dps so they will know if the dps is good enough and who isn't performing to standards. If the dps isn't good enough in a hard content we should know which dps is dragging the group down, and if those dps aren't able to improve upon it they should be replaced. The dps replaced should then go work on what they are doing wrong and look to improve themselves. There's no need to be soft on dps who didn't take their time to learn their class optimally when there are many resources online to learn rotations from.

[Asierid]

I always find that the people most opposed to DPS Parsers/Checkers are often the ones that don't even do the content which it'd be most widely used.

Why anyone who is a DPS would be afraid to know their DPS just suggests to me that they shouldn't be playing that role.

There are tools already that exist to parse, they just require you to have a computer to use them. Hell if your that concerned about it.. give an option to "Hide Dps" you can click.

But the bad people might talk bad about me.

There is no compromise here. All you have is a bunch of people who haven't touched progression raid content complaining that they don't want parsers touching their daily experts. That's all it will ever be by the way things are going.