DPS display could easily be solved with a system already in game.

[Varilae]

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You have to try pretty hard to fail normal dungeons in terms of DPS, even the newest dungeons. There never is or was (to my knowledge) some sort of epidemic of players being kicked from duty finder dungeon queues because their DPS was not top-tier. I highly doubt this will suddenly be the case on the off chance an official parser is introduced to the game. Will some people gloat about their numbers? You bet. There's also plenty of people who won't. There's all sorts of people out there and I'm noticing that everyone is worried about the worst case scenarios when it comes to how the community will react to parsers.

As far as job balance goes... well, yeah, if there's one job out there that severely under performs compared to other jobs, people would be less likely to take it. This isn't a new thing. Luckily for everyone here, all jobs, at least from what I've seen, perform well in this game. Summoners have it a little rough right now but they can do just fine in final coil (My static had a summoner and we made it all the way through final coil). Keep in mind, people can already analyze the jobs like this on PC. I have never seen PFs strictly stating "this job can't come". The closest thing to this is people wanting Monks for final coil due to mantra or early on where Dragoons (apparently) could not survive certain attacks in coil due to their magic resist (this was fixed). I really don't know if not letting certain jobs into PF groups is a common occurrence , so someone correct me if I'm wrong there. The devs seem pretty good about maintaining a good class balance so far.

[nuyu11]

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I got your point mate, but I'm from World of Warcraft before where I have seen WindWalker Monk being kick from the group because of their class. New player being kicked from the normal dungeon because of bad DPS. People keep complaining why Tank DPS is far more higher than DPS class. Some people are nice but some are not, that's what I'm afraid about.

I strongly support Parser because of the boss enrage timer mechanic, but with highly strict rule and protocol to prevent bullying or harassment.
People always want to find others fault and want to boast their result, later in raid alliance chat only full with DPS log.

[PotatoTree]

At this point the vast majority of people who would kick someone for a low parse would be already using a parser anyway, so might as well add a parser.

[Asierid]

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Few things:

1: This is 14. Anything related to WoW, aside from the theme park aspect, has no comparison here. Two different games. There is virtually no classism in 14 so long as you can play the class correctly. WoW has turned into the FotM machine in terms of balancing.

2: There are "not so nice" people right now. Adding a parser doesn't change this. This isn't even an opinion anymore, it's just ignorance to the fact that people are assholes, regardless.

[Boss_Koivula]

As a PS4 player all I want from SE is that they implement a parser that atleast will show us our own DPS. How am I and others in this same situation supposed to improve ourself or test new things without one? Seeing all those top parses on DPS Forums from the same jobs that I play makes me want to try and reach same numbers. I'm a competitive person and I try to improve in whatever I do, but its hard when you can't see if you are going forward or taking a step back. I can't just ask people that I know that parse to run content with me 24/7 just for the sake of myself. Otherwise they would soon ignore me if I kept bugging them all the time.

All I can say is the pros will outnumber the cons in this case based on my own experience if we do get one. Not once have I seen anyone shame someone publicly for low DPS in any content. Sure there are people who would belittle others and whine about numbers, but they are the same immature people that already whine about everything.

[ShaneDawn]

The game should at least have a personal parser. It is really hard for a new dps to know whether they're making any actual progress or compare their performance to the others. Doing the mechanics well=/=playing your class well.

It's funny to what extends SE goes to protect the pride of some dps. If a healer messes up, people die. If a tank messes up, people die. If a dps is being a wet noodle, they somehow have the idea that no one should be able to tell them something is off... although you can already tell underperforming to an extent via the enmity bar. It's a touchy subject; even if you're friendly and nice, even if you tell it only to the person themselves, some people will get really mental about someone commenting about their dps. But why pick up a dps class if you don't want to dps?

I have never ever seen anyone kick people out for lack of dps.If anything, people have asked whether they pull their rotations right.

[Jamein]

Well, looks like I came back the next day and the threads just repeating itself.
People with no parser or end game experience repeating the same assumptions that everyone who does use a parser is a big ol meanie that will ask for 700+ DPS or kick you from the group (lolwut?).
Then DPS classes saying it is absurd that they get judged on doing their classes main role, even when the game actively relies on enrage timers and timed add phases and DPS checks.

You can argue that right now it is fine because they can't shout at you in game for your DPS, but I can tell you if someone REALLY wants you out of the group because they are parsing you at something pathetic they will just kick you and not say a word, wouldn't you rather know why you were kicked so you could improve? Even so it doesn't happen much anyway if the DPS is fine to get through you wont get kicked. As I said before if you don't care about improving that is also absolutely fine, but you have to ask yourself is it fair to go into end game raids that require some sort of skill level on your class and drag 7 other people down because 'I only play how I want to play' which to me is an absolutely abysmal attitude to have when playing an MMO.

Tanks should tank.
Healers should heal.
DPS classes should alt tab and watch netflix apparently.

[Welsper59]

Then DPS classes saying it is absurd that they get judged on doing their classes main role, even when the game actively relies on enrage timers and timed add phases and DPS checks.

With the exception of something like Demon Wall, do meaningful DPS checks actually exist outside of Coil? I mean, static raiders mostly will and do use parsers already. Generally speaking, the biggest problem if DF Coil runs are the issue is ignorance of the fights.

[Jamein]

With the exception of something like Demon Wall, do meaningful DPS checks actually exist outside of Coil? I mean, static raiders mostly will and do use parsers already. Generally speaking, the biggest problem if DF Coil runs are the issue is ignorance of the fights.

And I personally don't care about a parser outside of end game raiding, hell just disable the thing in low levels/experts/towers so the people who don't care about DPS can do that content in peace (or even make it only visible to yourself in those low-mid tier duties). I even said in my post you quoted that if you don't want to improve that's fine but END-GAME has certain requirements to meet in terms of skill level. That requirement goes down with echo and with gear.

Although the extreme primals and the hard mode to an extent had DPS checks in them, back when people barely even had darklight.