DPS display could easily be solved with a system already in game.

[loldrg]

I have never seen this new wave of criticism and persecution by tanks and healers that is being claimed on the forums.

If anything, they are pretty well protected in most of groups I've been in, seeing as DPS are the first to fill and we are usually waiting for tanks or healers.

New wave? Ever wonder why you wait for tanks / healers or why there is a reward for tanking coil/primals? It's because of the abuse that gets thrown at you for the increased visibility of your mistakes. This is why parsers matter.

When you outgear the fight by up to 40 ilvls and struggle with it killing it or meeting DPS checks, the party deserves to know which poetics princess is holding them back. Pony farming is miserable enough as it is and T9-13 having timed add phases that pad the fight's time length make farming those tiring even with a good group. When the tanks (or healers) are outparsing you, the party has a right to know.

[FrejyaAthenes]

New wave? Ever wonder why you wait for tanks / healers or why there is a reward for tanking coil/primals? It's because of the abuse that gets thrown at you for the increased visibility of your mistakes. This is why parsers matter.

When you outgear the fight by up to 40 ilvls and struggle with it killing it or meeting DPS checks, the party deserves to know which poetics princess is holding them back. Pony farming is miserable enough as it is and T9-13 having timed add phases that pad the fight's time length make farming those tiring even with a good group. When the tanks (or healers) are outparsing you, the party has a right to know.

Funny enough the main people I see complaining about tanks and healers...are healers and tanks respectively. Not saying dps don't complain, but they're hardly the sole suspects.

On another note, "poetics princess," I gotta use that someday. That's gold.

[Kallera]

Funny enough the main people I see complaining about tanks and healers...are healers and tanks respectively. Not saying dps don't complain, but they're hardly the sole suspects.

On another note, "poetics princess," I gotta use that someday. That's gold.

I wasn't trying to be mean or anything, I simply haven't seen it occur with any increased occurrence, or would agree with it if it did come up due to non-dps being already harder to obtain before a snowball of people start leaving.

[Kallera]

Look, I appreciate numbers, but I just don't want it becoming the newest rage to wall off and shame people.

[Jamein]

Look, I appreciate numbers, but I just don't want it becoming the newest rage to wall off and shame people.

Why does everything have to be so negative? Why do you look on the downside? There are plenty of positives that come from a parser and personally I think it would increase the average skill level in the game by far as people would have some sort of clue as to what they are pulling numbers wise.
Of course some people are going to use it to point the finger at others but they already do that. At least with a parser you can actually see if they are lying, or if they are actually right and you are pulling low DPS, even if they are going the wrong way about telling you and you can then go improve. Or if you don't care for end game raids don't go and improve and stick with the content where your DPS doesnt really matter.

[Sebazy]

Look, I appreciate numbers, but I just don't want it becoming the newest rage to wall off and shame people.

I keep hearing this, and yet I still never see it actually happen.

[Asierid]

I keep hearing this, and yet I still never see it actually happen.

Ding. You are correct.

Let's watch everyone make assumptions about things we know nothing about when it clearly serves its purpose in other games. Disregarding evidence, personal feelings first of course. That is what this forum is about, rite?

[SDaemon]

I keep hearing this, and yet I still never see it actually happen.

Not surprising. In XIV open talk (i.e outside friends, guilds, statics) of using parsers and parsing of other players can land you in trouble with GMs. In games where their use is open and allowed it's common practice.

[DracotheDragon]

see with this idea i don't mind it but i understand those who don't want to see it i went and joined a PF for a t10 farm and i was kicked, why? i was told my DPS was to low, now if i left it that i would be called a delicate little flower, but now if i tell you that during that fight i was the charge target nearly every single time, suddenly my low dps makes sense to those with common sense because charge = stun = lost GL3 = perfect balance every 5 mins = getting charged again. being told my dps was low was there only focus when we were pushing phases easily.


now, everyone knows if they could see there number they might and might not, those who think they are the bee's knees and carrying a group may not be as high as they think, while others may take that as a hint to practice and try to do better, or they may be happy with there gear = numbers.

but this is where we come to a issue, if you start issuing everyone numbers then people see themselves above anyone who are slightly lower, we will see PF say ONLY 750 DPS ONLY, what dose this number truly mean. on reddit someone got over 1000 DPS as a black mage in a titan hard mode with 50% echo so already that number becomes useless, training dummies do not have the same defence value's of t13 so thats useless, t13 itself has higher defence but unless you clear it with out echo and your not selected for any and all mechanic which would make it useless the chances of anyone caring for your number becomes insanely low.

TL: DR i think it would be a ok idea, but i do not truly care, others will react ever extremely poorly or extremely happily to this, but the way's to test your numbers are extremely limited as the numbers it gained can be influenced though many anomalies that then invalidate the numbers ultimately making the number system worthless.

[Kikosho]

...training dummies do not have the same defence value's of t13 so thats useless, t13 itself has higher defence...

Quite incorrect.