Echo buff only when there's a new player

[AskaRay]

So what if me and my party, who have all cleared it, want the Echo?

[ElHeggunte]

If I reworded the topic to:

Give the party an extra echo increase when with a new player

Would that change it? It's the same thing

I still don't see how this would help anything. You're actually contradicting yourself. You say it's boring for players who've already cleared the content a bunch of times to have the echo (which they can remove anyway if it were really that boring), but you want to incentivize them helping new players by giving them... a more powerful echo? I don't understand.

You've also illustrated the point that players who have already cleared the content a bunch of times prove that they don't need the echo anyway so what makes you think they'd be any more inclined to bring new players just because they'd apply the echo?

It's like fatigue in 1.0, everyone hated it but change the name to rested exp and everyone is happy when nothing has changed at all - non rested exp IS fatigue

Fatigue and Rested aren't even close to being the same thing. Like, at all. The only similarity is that they both modified your exp gain.

[Lumidus]

Dont you have to wipe first to get the echo buff?

[Yumi_umi]

So on 1st time groups like 8/8 ppl r new they get echo?
Well thts a pretty dumb idea lol.
Doesn't matter cuz 3.0 is just weeks away = YAY CONTENT THAT WON'T HAVE ECHO.... Yet.
Dunno y u'd care about echo on content u have on farm.
Also
Uh..............
Don't farm groups aim to clear things as fast and clean as they can? So having no echo will only make tht take more effort which im sure 7/8 ppl don't want to do when they have been farming the same content for 5 hrs.

[Skeith-Adeline]

Echo makes it funner to farm to be honest. I like having 6600hp in T13 without food (which is HYPER expensive on Zalera)

[Sylkis]

So on 1st time groups like 8/8 ppl r new they get echo?
Well thts a pretty dumb idea lol.
Doesn't matter cuz 3.0 is just weeks away = YAY CONTENT THAT WON'T HAVE ECHO.... Yet.
Dunno y u'd care about echo on content u have on farm.
Also
Uh..............
Don't farm groups aim to clear things as fast and clean as they can? So having no echo will only make tht take more effort which im sure 7/8 ppl don't want to do when they have been farming the same content for 5 hrs.

It won't be any slower than before, basically the echo now becomes no echo. Parties with a new player get echo which makes it faster.

If you apply this to new dungeons/raids instead of the current ones that's the end result will be

[DukeBurden]

I honestly think SE should give MORE Echo at the START of a trail or raid. Because we're in this limbo state before the expansion, just make all the fights faster and easier, let us farm everything to our heart's content so we can be ready to eat up the new expansion when it launches!