GTX 960

[Imoye]

There's a great deal wrong with this whole post but the only thing I'll comment on is that Nvidia has generally been thrashing AMD for years in video cards. If AMD were really that amazing, more people would be buying AMD but over the last decade or so that simply has not been the case. Marketing can't carry you for a decade in technology, if your product fundamentally sucks, people will eventually stop buying it. And yet for more than 10 years, Nvidia has nearly always held (sometimes significantly) higher market share than AMD. 10 years isn't caused by marketing and people need to stop pretending that it is.

Everything in my post is true, you don't really provide a solid arguement, you just write random stuff. AMD and Nvidia have both been pretty even when it comes to graphics cards, so yes, Nvidia has not been trashing AMD. More objectively you can simply sample reviews and see for yourself. As an enthusiast myself I want to buy what provides the best performance. When it comes to CPUs, Intel wins hands down. But that's really not the case with GPUs, and the fact that you say otherwise is odd as it is simply untrue. Apple's been outselling. Several Android manufacturers for years, does that make iPhones better? Definitely not.

You are so wrong, it pains me.

The 960 is not worth getting because of the 2GB memory limitation. 2GB is the bare minimum as of right now for 1080p gaming. If you want a card that'll last you for a while, then you need to get the 4GB version which costs more. Then you might as well get he 280X which is significantly faster and overclocks well.

Still remember when Nvidia 5xx users had to turn down settings in BF3 because they were maxing out on memory usage. Atm, you'd want more than 2GB if you're playing BF4/Hardline. Also those games support mantle which offers a significant performance boost for AMD cards.

Watchdogs, although it was poorly optimized for PC, also used more than 2GB. It's better to buy a card with more memory if play anything other than FFXIV. Unless you want to run into the chance of not being able to run high-res textures in the future. Also let's not forget Nvidia screwing customers with the GTX 970.

[Azures]

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-960-GA...ds=gtx+960+4gb

Problem solved

[Slirith]

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-960-GA...ds=gtx+960+4gb

Problem solved

Cheaper http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...60&ignorebbr=1

[Illya]

If you're after a GTX 960 and are willing to jump through a couple of hoops:

http://slickdeals.net/f/7839523-msi-...r-cashback?v=1

It doesn't get any cheaper than this. It comes with The Witcher 3 too as a nice free game bonus. The Witcher 3 is a game which uses Nvidia GameWorks features which are Nvidia exclusive like PhysX and TXAA, in addition to stuff like HBAO+ (as seen in FFXIV Heavensward Benchmark) and HairWorks which also work on AMD cards.

[Sunako_Nakahara]

Also take into consideration that FFXIV is adding Nvidia Gameworks into the game with the DX11 client which any game that has the features
from gameworks normaly runs horrible on AMD. Right now yes the Bench is optimized for Nvidia. AMD will get 5-10% gains out of driver optimizing
but wont come close to Nvidia. R9 290 and 290X's have had a problem with FFXIV since the game relaunched and can be out preformed by much lower
end cards.

Right now a GTX 960 is better then any AMD offering for 1080p. Its only when you start to go to higher Res that a few of their cards start to work a
tiny bit better but then at that price point you can step up to Some of the remaining GTX 780 ti's or a GTX 970 or up which hand AMD their behind.

[erish]

gameworks normaly runs horrible on AMD. R

Please this is the sort of rubbish that needs to be stopped, Gameworks will boost nvidia cards but by the simple way it works it also works well for amd cards, although it might take abit longer for respective drivers to come out.

[Sunako_Nakahara]

Also the Vram over 2 Gigs is not used in FFXIV @ 1080p not even @ 1440. It wasn't until running the Bench @ 4K and Simulated 5k that it rose above 3 gigs
of Vram being used. As for your term "Future Proofing" its been long known that there is no suck thing. You can only exstend the longevity of your parts by
getting the newest and best at the time. This person isnt looking for the very best they are looking for what is going to give them the best FFXIV exp. at a reasonable
price. And they Wont find that with AMD at this time.

[Ceodore]

I have the MSI version of this card, and it's great. I wanted something that would blast this game, and it does that with quadruple monitor support and sandboxing capabilities. For the price, it's a bargain. I'd personally avoid EVGA though, as they have low durability ratings. If you're going to pay a lot for a card, quality construction is worth it. And yeah, AMD sucks. Over heating problems, cheaply produced.

[Sunako_Nakahara]

Running the benchmark in DX9 actually gives higher scores than DX11 IIRC.

you only get lower scores on DX11 over DX9c if you your have a AMD card all 12 different cards i have tested show this

[Ooshima]

you only get lower scores on DX11 over DX9c if you your have a AMD card all 12 different cards i have tested show this

Haven't really tested this myself but my friend who did that was on the R9 290X