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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I dont think you can label this thread as pointless, especially with all the likes it has gotten.

    And I and many others don't agree with your explanation.
    You don't have to agree with the explanation. That's fine. It just makes you wrong.

    Now if you want to start a thread that asks, "Does instant transportation effect game realism?" then your thread is validated.

    It really is that simple.

    As far as the "pointlessness" of the thread goes, it's not. There's been a lot of discussion on the topic. Unfortunately a lot of that was misguided and incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    You don't have to agree with the explanation. That's fine. It just makes you wrong.

    Now if you want to start a thread that asks, "Does instant transportation effect game realism?" then your thread is validated.
    QFT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikita View Post
    I have heard of a facebook.
    But what is it exactly?
    It's where the kind of people who think gameplay isn't the most important thing in gaming go make up for their lack of friends, interaction and immersion IRL.
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    Anima triviliases like 90% of the sidequests.

    In my prior example of the sidequests, I mentioned how players can teleport between destinations and complete the quests there within seconds.

    Step 1: Read a wall of text
    Step 2: check map
    Step 3: teleport to destination
    Step 4: Read another wall of text
    Step 5: Complete quest

    If this is the "casual and convenient" method of playing a game, then hopefully you can appreciate the issue some people have with this. Quests become chores. Anima makes them so.

    If they are going to keep anima in, they need to create content which factors in anima-use.

    Hopefully the 'conductor approach' we've heard so much about (lol) will mean SE re-evaluating their anima and questing policy.
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    Frankly, if you're worried about 'game immersion' get a life. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Frankly, if you're worried about 'game immersion' get a life. That is all.
    "Molly Millions", if that is your real name, most people play games for fun. And I guess immersion contributes to fun. Or at the very least, it contributes to engagement.

    And anyway, maybe if the game was sooooo utterly immersive, then nobody would even need a life, because they could just live in FFXIV.

    Ain't that the goal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    Ain't that the goal?
    Nope. The goal is to make money for SE.

    People aren't gonna pay for something that's boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Nope. The goal is to make money for SE.

    People aren't gonna pay for something that's boring.
    Did I not just explain how anima can make the game boring too?

    It's all about balance, child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    "Molly Millions", if that is your real name, most people play games for fun. And I guess immersion contributes to fun. Or at the very least, it contributes to engagement.

    And anyway, maybe if the game was sooooo utterly immersive, then nobody would even need a life, because they could just live in FFXIV.

    Ain't that the goal?
    I would argue that one does not have to be 'immersed' in a game to have fun with it.

    It seems to me that folks toss around this argument, because they have no other logical argument for their ideas/preferences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I would argue that one does not have to be 'immersed' in a game to have fun with it.

    It seems to me that folks toss around this argument, because they have no other logical argument for their ideas/preferences.
    I would argue that teleporting from quest objective to quest objective is pretty boring too.

    Anima has its uses, but it also has its abuses.
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