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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I was unaware there was anything really left to say in this thread...

    I think about 30 pages ago everything that could be said pretty much was, I think we are arguing in cricles still. It's a matter of personal preference wether the insta warps ruin your gameplay experience or not. Just because people have the option doesn't mean it doesn't effect them, the option really does take out all the "Point" of walking.

    Sure you can still walk...but why? It's not rewarding anymore like it used to be. Walking to somewhere used to have a point "To get there in one peice" but now that that's invalidated with the airships it really isn't rewarding or even really has a point to be being done. There isn't anything to really see if your just going from city-city, nor is it dangerous, nor is it engaging at all currently.

    I can see why people want the warp, I'm still not really bought on the fact that nobody has "The time" to get to places...but I understand the mentality of many who just want to bang out everything as fast as possible. I think it's unhealthy for the game for people to be able to do this...but I understand why they want to be able to do it. People treat MMO's like work more and more nowdays, it's all about maximizing your time/productivity instead of getting wrapped up in a world where you get to forget about how hard you worked, or how crappy your day was.

    It's a different mentality between I and the people who want the stuff right away, and I'm sure those people who want instant airships all have their own lines they will draw in the sand eventually and say "That's enough"

    I've put my point across that I think a more dynamic world should be worked on before introducing ways to bypass the empty world we currently play in, it's just encouraging the developers to keep pushing work on the overworld back farther and farther when they know they can keep people happy by allowing them to bypass the world.

    I don't want the game to become a giant series of instanced content...

    But really I hope the people argueing circles around eachother can really just accept that there are two sides to this arguement and no matter what you say the other side isn't listening, nor is either side "Right" it's a matter of preferences...yes that includes involving a "Choice" the option to never have that "Choice" is my preference, because it effect my gameplay experience in a way I don't want it too.
    I agree. We are going in circles, only because this is a really hard subject to argue about.

    A bit of clairvoyance struck me in the median of this ruckus; the mechanics of this MMO are being adjusted to a more time sensitive audience. Concisely, it's accommodating for individuals with the lack of. To be disgruntled with SE about this "casual conscious" decision (a monetary one for a business is understandable) is ridiculous.

    So, taking a step back from this thread, I pondered about immersion. Is immersion the actual involvement in an activity or is it a gauge of just how deeply involved with it we are? So, ultimately at the nadir, isn't every last one of us immersed?

    So then, immersion isn't subjective; Only the level of it and feelings are. Love or lump your version of immersion, you still are regardless. To play anything, involvement is necessary on the most basic level. Deep or shallow of this involvement is insignificant.

    These mechanics being adjusted for people with less play time are bringing down the enjoyment of us adventurers who have a higher level of immersion than most, and reducing our overall fun and experience. Travel means traversing distances, recognizing and feeling distance substantiates massiveness. Remove travel, you therefore remove the essense of massiveness. Now it's MORPG. Last I recall, this is supposed to be an online world. Perception of massiveness is a major principle of a world.

    I read your argument of my post Quanta, I'm pressed for time, so I'll immerse myself later on to append my rebuttal to this thread.

    OMG I'm such a nerd.
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    Last edited by Jobeto-Rin; 09-12-2011 at 11:11 AM.