Does instant transportation effect game immersion?

[DNO]

So, Rhomagus, after all this All-out war you declared on this thread. Just a simple question, as Jynx has pointed out previously, you really don't see an issue with *Clap your hands* vanish from one city, *Clap your hands* appear in another city?
You really don't think that this is bad game design and it will harm the game and it's longevity when everything is a click away? Why even bother have different cities, may as well have one big city? (Hang on.. i know your tempted to dissect every lil comment) City is not just defined by it's content but by it's location as well, i'm sure you would agree to this. (Hold your temptation a bit longer..) I mean..you are forced to spend time to run from one guild to another in the city, Does it really make sense to you that you're forced to spend some time to run from one end of the city to the other but it's not acceptable to spend a little bit of time to travel from one city to another? (Now you can reply..coz it's all in context now)

By your logic, i could argue that very idea that running around in the city everytime from one spot to the other is an unneeded time-sink and that you are dictating my play when you don't give me the option to warp to any place in the city. Why not request to have npc's warp you into every guild in the city? Isn't that the concept? You accepted it for city to city travel when it takes around the same time (by a short airship ride) to travel within the city. So why not have insta everything everywhere? You may have not requested it but we could very well have other people requesting this, and we can say it's their right, the point of the matter is there should be a line drawn somewhere or you're pretty much screwing up the game, bluntly put. And when it comes down to this, call it dictatorship if you will, ill happily dictate it with my opinion if i feel its harming the success of the game, not just for me but for the masses.

Yes, i agree to the point that the game should not have mindless time-sinks, and a current example of that i would definitely agree to is current state of the game where:

1) No chocobos to speed up movement around this massive world where you end up traversing the lands at a slow steady speed relentlessly.
2) No Airships, meaning you have to spend 20 mins running through Eorzea from one city to the other.

These were definite time-sinks which hurt the game..and we were all dealing with them since launch, now come 1.19, SE actually fixed these mindless time-sinks. With the Airships, Cutting down time frame to travel one city to the other from like say, 20 mins to 5 mins, which is a huge shortcut in itself, but it's too much to handle? To me, i will agree with Azury and whoever else stated this is precisely asking for things to be handed on a silver platter, whether you agree or not, the fact is you're not willing to accept the little effort and time it should take you to travel from one place to the other. Let's not forget ofcourse SE provided us with the Anima system, where need-be you can instantly teleport to any city at a cost.. i think that's a fair compromise. Why should it all be so easy, dumbed down and instant?

This isn't just about Immersion anymore, there is a concept called Game balance too. In XI when you warped from one place to the other, you had to earn it through various accomplishments as has been previously stated, no one started with warp cudgels in their pockets, nor were these cudgels of infinite use and they had other limitations.

You really have to get out of this give me everything on a silver platter mindset because i have limited time, Games by their very nature involve a time-sink, especially so an MMO which is a massively multiplayer online-game where you're not the only one playing and a shortcut for you will harm the overall game balance for others. You can't see that? A simple point mentioned before were people had to choose between settling in one city over the other to complete leves for example and as a result had to often sacrifice leves in another city due to Anima limitations, this sacrfice by choice aspect which is an integral part of any game has been harmed by this insta port, now ppl will be warping instantly between cities without any hesitation. This is dumbing down the game and making it too easy when it's an online that game that seeks longevity, a game that should live for another 10 years should not be over-simplified like this, whether you think its a mind-sink or not, it serves other purposes which you either are unaware of or choose to ignore.

dude. focus. we are talking only about an airship ride. SO cut out about... no cut out all of your post and start over. Does waiting on a ship for 5 mins and having the option to skip that 5 mins really change the gameplay that much? keep it simple do not get confused. We are talking about an airship ride dude keep it steady on that.

[Gennosuke]

dude. focus. we are talking only about an airship ride. SO cut out about... no cut out all of your post and start over. Does waiting on a ship for 5 mins and having the option to skip that 5 mins really change the gameplay that much? keep it simple do not get confused. We are talking about an airship ride dude keep it steady on that.

Dude.. The point is, and i re-iterate other players concerns, it is dumbing down the game, whether it's 5 mins or not.
I am not confused. There is obviously multiple aspects to this issue, whether it's immersion or game-balance or whatever else the case may be.

What's your big idea?

[DNO]

Dude.. The point is, and i re-iterate other players concerns, it is dumbing down the game, whether it's 5 mins or not.
I am not confused. There is obviously multiple aspects to this issue, whether it's immersion or game-balance or whatever else the case may be.

What's your big idea?

No the point is Dude you are over reacting to a airship ride. This does NOT dumb down anything. Your assuming it will and you are wrong. Read my sig. Its what happens every update and when this update is added you will soon see NOTHING has changed.

You are confused there is NOT multple aspects to this it is simple. You can skip a CS.. that is it.

[Gennosuke]

No the point is Dude you are over reacting to a airship ride. This does NOT dumb down anything. Your assuming it will and you are wrong. Read my sig. Its what happens every update and when this update is added you will soon see NOTHING has changed.

Say.. out of curiosity, and i did read you sig before you told me to do so and i found it interesting.
I'm wondering, if they brought a new patch removing the instaport, would you have gotten over it fast?

[DNO]

Say.. out of curiosity, and i did read you sig before you told me to do so and i found it interesting.
I'm wondering, if they brought a new patch removing the instaport, would you have gotten over it fast?

Yes so freaking fast your head would of spin. Why? because its only 5 mins. I would like to travel faster but its better then walking. Now if they take out the ship altogether then it would be like how it is now. Which is why SE is ADDING ships and for that matter chocos.

(unless im confused and you mean taking out anima? But if your taking about taking out the insta airship ride no i would not be mad as long as the ride is still there and its MUCH faster then walking. but i would rather skip that damn Boat ride from LL to Ul'dah and so would you. So this time SE is giving us the option. Do not tell SE to not give options. thats silly)

[Gennosuke]

Yes so freaking fast your head would of spin. Why? because its only 5 mins. I would like to travel faster but its better then walking. Now if they take out the ship altogether then it would be like how it is now. Which is why SE is ADDING ships and for that matter chocos.

(unless im confused and you mean taking out anima? But if your taking about taking out the insta airship ride no i would not be mad as long as the ride is still there and its MUCH faster then walking. but i would rather skip that damn Boat ride from LL to Ul'dah and so would you. So this time SE is giving us the option. Do not tell SE to not give options. thats silly)

I envy you.. and no that's not being sarcastic.

[DNO]

I envy you.. and no that's not being sarcastic.

explain if you not being sarcastic? why do you envy me?

[Gennosuke]

You are confused there is NOT multple aspects to this it is simple. You can skip a CS.. that is it.

It seems to me that you are confused about me being confused.
Option of skipping CS, i.e insta port will... nevermind, i've written enough posts about it. you can scroll up.

[DNO]

It seems to me that you are confused about me being confused.
Option of skipping CS, i.e insta port will... nevermind, i've written enough posts about it. you can scroll up.

I have read it and its wrong. simple as that. Do not assuming anything talk about what is actually happening and all thats going on is you can skip a CS and travel to city to city without waiting on an airship.

[DNO]

Dude.. The point is, and i re-iterate other players concerns, it is dumbing down the game, whether it's 5 mins or not.
I am not confused. There is obviously multiple aspects to this issue, whether it's immersion or game-balance or whatever else the case may be.

What's your big idea?

So first its duming down the game... then soon as i disprove that you change to immersion? Pick a point and focus on it.

It does not dumb down the game so thats wrong.

Does it give less immersion? thats an opinion and can not be disproved and you have a right to feel that way. However thats not what I was debating. Does it dum down the game? answer is no.