Does instant transportation effect game immersion?

[Rhomagus]

and to add to what you all ready stated, the instant teleports in FF11 were integrated into the games lore/immersion. In FF14 you have anima well hell everyone has it how do i explain it? (um hmm i guess all people in his world are born with the ability to teleport!) that is the enemy of immersion. In FF11 all instant travel had a place in the games lore, and worked to not break your immersion in the game.

FF11 most certainly did it right, people have just been stuck with FF14 for so long now they have to settle for this crap.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/gameplay/guildleves

Click bottom right corner where it says Aetheryte.

It was literally built into the lore before the game was released.

You could apply your logic to Star Trek and their ability to warp or beam people down to a planets surface. That doesn't destroy people's immersion. It might your's but people find that to be a very interesting aspect of the Star Trek universe. Maybe the Enterprise should run on an Internal Combustion Engine instead ya?

You've contributed nothing to your argument.

[Jynx]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/gameplay/guildleves

Click bottom right corner where it says Aetheryte.

It was literally built into the lore before the game was released.

You could apply your logic to Star Trek and their ability to warp or beam people down to a planets surface. That doesn't destroy people's immersion. It might your's but people find that to be a very interesting aspect of the Star Trek universe. Maybe the Enterprise should run on an Internal Combustion Engine instead ya?

You've contributed nothing to your argument.

While I agree aetherite allready has lore in the game, it also tells us that it's a bad thing too do it too much lol. "The logic behind waiting for anima to regenerate I'm guessing".

But just to point out the flaw in your comparison...In Star Trek it's not like you could "Beam" someone to the other side of the galaxy you had a finite range in which you could do such things...but thats just being picky.

[Aenarion]

But just to point out the flaw in your comparison...In Star Trek it's not like you could "Beam" someone to the other side of the galaxy you had a finite range in which you could do such things...but thats just being picky.

yea, 'til someone invert the tachyon emitters anyway, those tachyon emitters can do EVERYTHING

[Rhomagus]

While I agree aetherite allready has lore in the game, it also tells us that it's a bad thing too do it too much lol. "The logic behind waiting for anima to regenerate I'm guessing".

But just to point out the flaw in your comparison...In Star Trek it's not like you could "Beam" someone to the other side of the galaxy you had a finite range in which you could do such things...but thats just being picky.

Have you used your anima to go to the moon?

[Azurymber]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/gameplay/guildleves

Click bottom right corner where it says Aetheryte.

It was literally built into the lore before the game was released.

You could apply your logic to Star Trek and their ability to warp or beam people down to a planets surface. That doesn't destroy people's immersion. It might your's but people find that to be a very interesting aspect of the Star Trek universe. Maybe the Enterprise should run on an Internal Combustion Engine instead ya?

You've contributed nothing to your argument.

they also had a lot of episodes that death with beaming technology and how it can get interrupted or beam back someone half dead, etc. They built it into the world. Atherytes are just there.

[Bled]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/gameplay/guildleves

Click bottom right corner where it says Aetheryte.

It was literally built into the lore before the game was released.

You could apply your logic to Star Trek and their ability to warp or beam people down to a planets surface. That doesn't destroy people's immersion. It might your's but people find that to be a very interesting aspect of the Star Trek universe. Maybe the Enterprise should run on an Internal Combustion Engine instead ya?

You've contributed nothing to your argument.

You have contributed nothing with your star trek analogy what so ever.

I stated that there is no explanation (lore based) on how you can just on a whim travel any where in the world with anima, your link literally says teleportation is only used when guild leves are envoked which is not true at all in the game. these holes in the lore and explanation cause you to have to create your own explanation which breaks immersion. Star Trek and their "Beaming" or teleporting how ever you reference it is not only explained in countless episodes but is deeply explained in any reference book to star trek lore.

Please Rhomagus you get so caught up in your posts that you sometimes miss read and interpret meanings.

[Rhomagus]

Do not hide behind your willful ignorance. It's time for another dissection.

You have contributed nothing with your star trek analogy what so ever. Except that it directly presents how a fanciful non realistic idea can contribute to the lore of a world without breaking it's immersive element.

I stated that there is no explanation (lore based) on how you can just on a whim travel any where in the world with animaWow, really. Do I have to copy paste the entire explanation here for you.

Well okay:

Aetheryte is the name given to massive shards of crystallized aetheric mist, precisely cut and fused to arcane machinery. While it is not known when or by whom these devices were originally constructed, their teleportational qualities have become the backbone of everyday transportation throughout the realm, with most managed and operated by individual city-states.

Though the exact mechanism behind teleportation via aetheryte is still largely a mystery, one theory states that when a sentient being approaches one of the portals, the aether that makes up its body resonates with the aether of the crystals, which in turn results in a complete breakdown of the being’s mass, allowing it to temporarily return to the invisible aetheric streams that course throughout the planet. The being’s soul, which cannot be broken down, then guides the particles to a pre-determined destination, and upon arrival, the corresponding aetheryte receptacle reconfigures the mist back into its original form. This whole process takes only a matter of moments, allowing for nearly instant transportation to faraway destinations.

However, being broken down to the aetheric level can take its toll on one’s body, and rest is often required after several consecutive jumps, especially as the distance becomes greater. As a precaution, most city-states strongly discourage over-teleporting, as it can lead to irreversible damage...


, your link literally says teleportation is only used when guild leves are envokedMitch Hedburg would like a word with you and your inappropriate use of the word "literally". Nowhere in that description does it even mention guildleves. which is not true at all in the gameI agree. As does the description.. these wholes in the lore and explanation cause you to have to create your own explanation which breaks immersionExcept that there's an explanation given by the lore.. Star Trek and their "Beaming" or teleporting how ever you reference it is not only explained in countless episodes but is deeply explained in any reference book to star trek loreYes, as is anima in FFXIV. Do you see the connection now?.

Please Rhomagus you get so caught up in your posts that you sometimes miss read and interpret meanings.I'll gladly apologize and rescind anything that has proven to be false, misleading, inappropriate, or proven inconsequential in light of a heavily supported argument. Your post did not provide that.

[Bled]

Do not hide behind your willful ignorance. It's time for another dissection.

One: you posted the wrong link...

Two: "Guildleves are small, rectangular plates made of stained crystal set into a frame of precious metal, each depicting a virtuous deed of one of Eorzea’s patron saints, also known as “guardians.” When issuing tasks or quests, guilds will often provide adventurers with these plates, allowing their bearers “leave” to take whatever steps necessary to complete the jobs, including entry into normally restricted areas, hunting or harvesting on private lands, the confiscation of goods, even negotiations with those considered enemies of the city-states. Guildleves also grant use of aetheryte portals, ensuring quick travel about the region."

The above is what you actually linked and if you read that it states "Guildleves also grant use of aetheryte portals, ensuring quick travel about the region." so one comes to the conclusion, to be granted use of the aetheryte portals one must be envoking a guild leve thus the ability to teleport.

Since you pointed out that you wanted me to read of aetheryte rather then the guild leves your link still does not explain how people can port all over the world from any great distance from aetheryte to aetheryte whenever. However what i did read tells of a restriction to it aka a leve must be envoked. Now we look at the game i can port at any time for any reason thus lore is not exactly lining up.

And need i bring up the "irreversible affects" on the body that aetheryte portals cause,yet everyone travels with no penalty.

[Rhomagus]

One: you posted the wrong link...

No I didn't. You need to learn to read directions there sport.

I really don't like to be obnoxious so I'm going to post this without altering the text at all.

Click bottom right corner where it says Aetheryte.

And need i bring up the ill effect that aetheryte portals have on the body yet everyone travels with no penalty.

What do you think anima costs are supposed to represent. Marshmallows in your pockets?

I'm not going to dissect the actual literature for you but I can say that it provides a reason as to why you can teleport on a whim.

[Bled]

No I didn't. You need to learn to read directions there sport.

I really don't like to be obnoxious so I'm going to post this without altering the text at all.





What do you think anima costs are supposed to represent. Marshmallows in your pockets?

Anima returns over time hardly an "irreversible affect"... and those are the words right from the link.

'As a precaution, most city-states strongly discourage over-teleporting, as it can lead to irreversible damage...'

They may as well be "Marshmallows in your pockets".

and i see you conveniently glanced over the leve envoking restriction..