Does instant transportation effect game immersion?

[Crica]

Nope. I'm stating that human nature is to take the easy way even if a more challenging option is presented. so by creating the "choice" of either, the majority of people will take the easy way out, thus making the more challenging way obsolete, thus pigonholeing all players to fast travel. I am looking at the big picture of the lack of immersion not just in travel.

People play games they enjoy.

If the majority of people enjoy "easy" games, why does that matter as long as the game also includes what you enjoy?

(Not to mention, if the majority of players enjoy "easy" games, who exactly is going to buy an exclusively "hard" game? - food for thought)

At this point in time, FFXIV does include what you enjoy - slow traveling.

Why does it matter to you if other players are playing the game and using the option they enjoy - traveling fast?

It doesn't seem to matter to them if you travel slow, so why are you upset if they travel fast?

[Azurymber]

People play games they enjoy.

If the majority of people enjoy "easy" games, why does that matter as long as the game also includes what you enjoy?

(Not to mention, if the majority of players enjoy "easy" games, who exactly is going to buy an exclusively "hard" game? - food for thought)

At this point in time, FFXIV does include what you enjoy - slow traveling.

Why does it matter to you if other players are playing the game and using the option they enjoy - traveling fast?

It doesn't seem to matter to them if you travel slow, so why are you upset if they travel fast?

because allowing people to travel fast ruins the feeling of the game world for everyone. It means when you run around the world will be dead because everyone will just warp.
It means when you take an airship you will be the only one on it
It means that there will be no incentive to improve the world since everyone will be insta warping everywhere

So its not as simple as choice.

[Crica]

because allowing people to travel fast ruins the feeling of the game world for everyone. It means when you run around the world will be dead because everyone will just warp.
It means when you take an airship you will be the only one on it
It means that there will be no incentive to improve the world since everyone will be insta warping everywhere

So its not as simple as choice.

Are you trying to say that if Square removes the option to travel fast, then you would have more players to travel slow with?

I disagree.

You would have the same amount of players to travel slow with as you do right now since the players who enjoy traveling fast would no longer want to play the game because the option they enjoyed was removed.

You can not force players to enjoy traveling slow in a game, sorry.

[Azurymber]

Are you trying to say that if Square removes the option to travel fast, then you would have more players to travel slow with?

I disagree.

You would have the same amount of players to travel slow with as you do right now since the players who enjoy traveling fast would no longer want to play the game because the option they enjoyed was removed.

You can not force players to enjoy traveling slow, sorry.

your argument can be summed up as "if they took out this one single small thing everyone would quit"

why do you think people will quit over something that trivial? They would have chocobos to make up for the loss of insta-port.

[Crica]

why do you think people will quit over something that trivial?

Would you quit (or try out the game) if they removed the option to travel slow?

[Azurymber]

Would you quit (or try out the game) if they removed the option to travel slow?

no, I just know the game would never succeed.

My argument is that insta travel ruins the one thing FF is strong in, immersion.
In ffxi there were ppl running places. In FFXIV most areas feel dead.

for FFXIV to succeed in a seriously competitive MMO market (SW TOR has 400k+ preorders, ffxiv boards have 20kish registered) they need to play to their strengths. FF is a story+immersion based series. Warcraft wasn't an rpg it was a tactical adventure game. So WoW's design played to their strengths (more focus on the fightin, killin, raiding, etc in a cool world). FFXIV is trying to be WoW, and failing miserably.

Taking out airship travel is essentially removing airships, a FF legacy item, from the game.
Traveling instantly takes the life out of a giant world that really needs life in it.

[Crica]

Traveling instantly takes the life out of a giant world that really needs life in it.

According to you, because you enjoy traveling slow.

According to players who enjoy traveling fast, the game would be boring if they were forced to travel slow.

Again, it is a matter of personal enjoyment.

And when a game caters to personal enjoyment, then people will play the game.

Take out the option to personally enjoy the game, and you take out the people playing the game.

[Rhomagus]

Would you quit (or try out the game) if they removed the option to travel slow?

So... Socratic in your methods. ^^b

And you keep it simple and to the point.

I should look into that.