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    This is not really a matter of fun.. It's about sustainability. If there is no effort in travel then content becomes meaningless. 75% of most quest in most games is to get from point A to point B and then complete a task. No matter how difficult you make the task when you get to point B you are effectively quartering the life span of your games playability by allowing people to instantly arrive at there destination.

    Unless SE intends to create well over a hundred quests that require you to walk out into the middle of no where then travel to another spot in the middle of no where this games will never break through the barrier of Users completing all of it's content before more can come out.

    Instant travel will only serve to expand this problem. It effectively eliminates the possibility of a quest to carry the user between cities. We will be stuck with quests that require us to walk somewhere then telport back to town. Or quests that require us to teleport from town to town repeatedly. And of course the ever popular teleport to a specifc location and kill something. The only way around that of course would be to have quest check points all along the path to the next city which of course they will not do because it would require a lot of work and no one will do them in favor of simply teleporting.

    How can you expect a game to have sustainable content if there is no effort required to get between start and end and your next piece of content? Even WoW, literally the easiest MMO ever made, does not have instant teleportation between towns. You have to watch yourself ride whatever random creature they give you the entire distance to the town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    This is not really a matter of fun.. It's about sustainability. If there is no effort in travel then content becomes meaningless. 75% of most quest in most games is to get from point A to point B and then complete a task. No matter how difficult you make the task when you get to point B you are effectively quartering the life span of your games playability by allowing people to instantly arrive at there destination.

    Unless SE intends to create well over a hundred quests that require you to walk out into the middle of no where then travel to another spot in the middle of no where this games will never break through the barrier of Users completing all of it's content before more can come out.

    Instant travel will only serve to expand this problem. It effectively eliminates the possibility of a quest to carry the user between cities. We will be stuck with quests that require us to walk somewhere then telport back to town. Or quests that require us to teleport from town to town repeatedly. And of course the ever popular teleport to a specifc location and kill something. The only way around that of course would be to have quest check points all along the path to the next city which of course they will not do because it would require a lot of work and no one will do them in favor of simply teleporting.

    How can you expect a game to have sustainable content if there is no effort required to get between start and end and your next piece of content? Even WoW, literally the easiest MMO ever made, does not have instance teleportation between towns. You have to watch yourself ride whatever random creature they give you the entire distance to the town.
    the problem is clearly you are saying beause its faster to get to town then he game is boring because you get to content faster.

    That is wrong.

    And it is a matter of fun. Last night i had 1 hour left and no anima. i needed to get to LL from grind. guess what i did? i signed out. Travel to camps and raids is needed but traval between quest hubs becaue thats all a town really is a huge quest hub is not needed. Signing out because i did not feel like walking for 45 mins IS and always will be a matter of fun or not fun.

    anyways we will agree to disagree because it does not matter. SE agrees with us thats why we are getting airships. its a moot point aanyway becasue we are both getting what we want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    the problem is clearly you are saying beause its faster to get to town then he game is boring because you get to content faster.

    That is wrong.

    And it is a matter of fun. Last night i had 1 hour left and no anima. i needed to get to LL from grind. guess what i did? i signed out. Travel to camps and raids is needed but traval between quest hubs becaue thats all a town really is a huge quest hub is not needed. Signing out because i did not feel like walking for 45 mins IS and always will be a matter of fun or not fun.

    anyways we will agree to disagree because it does not matter. SE agrees with us thats why we are getting airships. its a moot point aanyway becasue we are both getting what we want.
    You would not have signed out if there was a 5 minute Airship ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    You would not have signed out if there was a 5 minute Airship ride.
    Nope which is the whole point. Faster means of travel is needed. way to go only answering part of the post. You are saying faster travel kills immersion im saying it does not. Weather a 5 min airship or a insta airship is there it does not kill immersion.

    what it does it get me to my place faster so i can stay immersed and keep playing.

    You also have to understand that bein immersed in something is different for everyone. i keep playing when i am moving forward and growing my toon. Not sitting on an airship for 10 mins. and for sure not walking. Immersion is not waiting. If it is for you thats fine but understand people... most people do not enjoying waiting when the do not have to.
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