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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    no he does not you do...

    "Originally Posted by Foxclon
    I was short on words last time about this sorry,
    The idea for the implementation is for people who want to travel fast they can cut the event (cut scene) and travel instantly, and for those that want to enjoy the flight (or happening!?) they can also do that. We would like to make it so depending on the situation or play style you can choose.
    (Note this is for later on, the current implementation will be instant travel only)"

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nglish)/page21

    Both options are here to stay.
    that's the comment that made me create the thread ;x. The idea to me of giving players a choice to travel instantly makes me worry about the future. I'm all for choice, but right now we can -port- to cities, so why even bother implementing something -ICONIC- like airships if all they are, are a paid-for-port. Airships are part of what makes final fantasy, final fantasy. And to just make that experience a choice seems like its takin the soul out of the game to appease all the people who just want to get everywhere instantly.
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    I didn't really read anything after the OP, so take this input with a grain of salt: Quick travel does not harm my feeling of "being there" any more than:

    Standing in a field for five straight (game-)days beating the shit out of anything that moves.
    Only eating right before I punch something in the face.
    Never taking a leak.
    Never sleeping.
    Disintegrating my body and travelling through invisible veins of aether to crystal gates.
    Riding giant chickens that never seem to crap on the path.
    Lalafells.
    Threads like this.
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 09-08-2011 at 07:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    no he does not you do...

    "Originally Posted by Foxclon
    I was short on words last time about this sorry,
    The idea for the implementation is for people who want to travel fast they can cut the event (cut scene) and travel instantly, and for those that want to enjoy the flight (or happening!?) they can also do that. We would like to make it so depending on the situation or play style you can choose.
    (Note this is for later on, the current implementation will be instant travel only)"

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nglish)/page21

    Both options are here to stay.
    Okay, never read that, but then what is the point of this thread? If you have a choice and are worried about you precious immersion, then choose to not skip. It's really that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    Okay, never read that, but then what is the point of this thread? If you have a choice and are worried about you precious immersion, then choose to not skip. It's really that simple.
    The fact that you have to choose not to skip it kills immersion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    Okay, never read that, but then what is the point of this thread? If you have a choice and are worried about you precious immersion, then choose to not skip. It's really that simple.
    read 2 threads above yours. This is an -M M O- not diablo. The journey, even if its repetitive, is part of an MMO. Once you instant-port everything, the wonder of the world dissappears. Now no offence to FFXIV but they definately aren't winning people over with their battle system, so the "wonder of the world" or put another way "the classic FF world feel" is important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    read 2 threads above yours. This is an -M M O- not diablo. The journey, even if its repetitive, is part of an MMO. Once you instant-port everything, the wonder of the world dissappears. Now no offence to FFXIV but they definately aren't winning people over with their battle system, so the "wonder of the world" or put another way "the classic FF world feel" is important.
    The classic FF world feel would include me having my own airship that I can take out when ever I would like and fly wherever I want.

    So unless they plan to give me that, I don't see how crummy 10 min paid for flights helps your case anymore then an instant flight does. They are equal to each other in terms of FF feel, neither have any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    The fact that you have to choose not to skip it kills immersion.
    But the fact you have to choose whether to:

    Enter a room
    Hand something over
    Let your body get sucked into a crystal and spit out in a town
    Get on a bird
    Open a gate
    Start a quest
    Talk to certain people
    Trade
    Etc
    Etc
    Etc

    MAINTAINS the immersion for you?

    AH JUST DUN GET IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commat View Post
    The classic FF world feel would include me having my own airship that I can take out when ever I would like and fly wherever I want.

    So unless they plan to give me that, I don't see how crummy 10 min paid for flights helps your case anymore then an instant flight does. They are equal to each other in terms of FF feel, neither have any.
    they had intended to do this (or at least have some form of building airships) at release... just sayin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    But the fact you have to choose whether to:

    Enter a room
    Hand something over
    Let your body get sucked into a crystal and spit out in a town
    Get on a bird
    Open a gate
    Start a quest
    Talk to certain people
    Trade
    Etc
    Etc
    Etc

    MAINTAINS the immersion for you?

    AH JUST DUN GET IT.
    You just listed a bunch of things that only have one option, do it or do not do it. With a Choice between instant and regular airship you then have to choose between Do it as intended or letting the game pretend you did it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    But the fact you have to choose whether to:

    Enter a room
    Hand something over
    Let your body get sucked into a crystal and spit out in a town
    Get on a bird
    Open a gate
    Start a quest
    Talk to certain people
    Trade
    Etc
    Etc
    Etc

    MAINTAINS the immersion for you?

    AH JUST DUN GET IT.
    Immersion is about a dynamic world and not a giant world where you just port everywhere. Thats the point. When you make it so people can just port everywhere it becomes WoW... if you like WoW then all to you. But that is the -COMPLETE- opposite of what FFXI was and what made FFXI so successful.
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