Does instant transportation effect game immersion?

[Rhomagus]

I've been planning to explore the southern end of Eastern Thanalan for a while now, I ran some distance there but stopped because I was distracted by mining points and the cave I mentioned, by the time I left the cave (thoroughly pleased that I'd found it) I'd completely forgotten what my original intention was of running so far down the map.

The fact that such a thing happened in the first place makes me happy I play this game, I could go wandering for hours and hours each day and always find something new. Plus who knows, exploring can sometimes reap it's own rewards. The quarry point I found in the cave gave me 4 things I'd been after for a while. At that particular time I was taking a break from gathering and crafting, having spent all morning doing it, so I was quite happy when I'd gotten what I'd wanted without having spent 30 minutes-1 hour running between one quarry point to another trying to get the shinies.

Remember when you were a little kid and you'd go running into the nearby forest with a friend, and find a creek with fish swimming in it and you'd spend ages holding a stick in the water hoping you'd be able to catch one?
Same thing, but with swords and sorcery.

OMG I just nostalgia'd so hard. I wish I could +10 a post. Thank you. Not to mention that's an awesome scenario to find yourself in. That's why I love exploring.

*sniff*

[Azurymber]

I was pretty scared when I first entered Mor Dhona and got chased for about 2 miles by a giant toad. I didn't want to have to return to Limsa and spend another 30 minutes running back again if it caught and killed me

What resulted in that first trip to Mor Dhona was me and 2 other people from my LS attempting to cross Mor Dhona from the south all the way to the north to move into Coerthas, just so we could admire the scenery and get some idea of where we'd end up in a few months time once we all hit r50.

At one point we all switched to gathering tools and swimsuits and started throwing rocks at a drake to see which one of us it could manage to catch, then one of the two survivors had to try and raise that person without getting aggro. Why did we do this? Simple, it was fun, and extremely funny. (Did I mention most of the enemies in Mor Dhona aggro on sight?). And by sight I mean quite literally, they only aggro if they look at you whilst you're in range, so you can actually run past them like, 5 feet away as long as they're looking the other way. It's pretty intense trying to run past a rank 90 Basilisk in an enclosed corridor of rocks, and knowing at any second it could turn around and chomp you, and that your corpse would end up too close to it to be raised by your friends.

But anyways, this game doesn't hand you immersion, fun and excitement on a plate, but it gives you the means and tools to find it yourself. If you want to go adventuring and exploring, you can. There's quite a few hidden nooks and crannies scattered around the various landscapes that you probably never knew were there, heck, I found a cave in Thanalan the other day with a pool and quarry point and weird glowing flowers that looked like chinese lanterns. 3 weeks running around in Thanalan before I found that. No doubt there's other wonders around that people don't know about, the same as there could still be crafting recipes or items of clothing that have yet to be discovered.

Don't expect the game to give you your adventure, go and find it for yourself, that's what makes it YOUR adventure.

So I guess in a way instant teleporting can affect the games immersion, because you may miss these hidden little bits and pieces, but it's up to you if you want to teleport, or run there and maybe find something interesting.

almost all the caves are cut and paste. If you've seen one you've pretty well seen them all :x

[Mikita]

I was pretty scared when I first entered Mor Dhona and got chased for about 2 miles by a giant toad. I didn't want to have to return to Limsa and spend another 30 minutes running back again if it caught and killed me

What resulted in that first trip to Mor Dhona was me and 2 other people from my LS attempting to cross Mor Dhona from the south all the way to the north to move into Coerthas, just so we could admire the scenery and get some idea of where we'd end up in a few months time once we all hit r50.

At one point we all switched to gathering tools and swimsuits and started throwing rocks at a drake to see which one of us it could manage to catch, then one of the two survivors had to try and raise that person without getting aggro. Why did we do this? Simple, it was fun, and extremely funny. (Did I mention most of the enemies in Mor Dhona aggro on sight?). And by sight I mean quite literally, they only aggro if they look at you whilst you're in range, so you can actually run past them like, 5 feet away as long as they're looking the other way. It's pretty intense trying to run past a rank 90 Basilisk in an enclosed corridor of rocks, and knowing at any second it could turn around and chomp you, and that your corpse would end up too close to it to be raised by your friends.

But anyways, this game doesn't hand you immersion, fun and excitement on a plate, but it gives you the means and tools to find it yourself. If you want to go adventuring and exploring, you can. There's quite a few hidden nooks and crannies scattered around the various landscapes that you probably never knew were there, heck, I found a cave in Thanalan the other day with a pool and quarry point and weird glowing flowers that looked like chinese lanterns. 3 weeks running around in Thanalan before I found that. No doubt there's other wonders around that people don't know about, the same as there could still be crafting recipes or items of clothing that have yet to be discovered.

Don't expect the game to give you your adventure, go and find it for yourself, that's what makes it YOUR adventure.

So I guess in a way instant teleporting can affect the games immersion, because you may miss these hidden little bits and pieces, but it's up to you if you want to teleport, or run there and maybe find something interesting.

Great post!

We can let teleporting ruin our immersion -- or not. It's really up to us.
To me teleporting is a great convenience and I hope SE keeps it as an option.

My little story:

Last night 20 people from my LS wanted to take a picture together in a place we'd never been to before.
So we all gathered in Ul'dah, split into 3 parties and teleported over to Nine Ivies. We'd all been to Nine Ivies before, so being able to teleport there was simply a great time saver.

From there is where the adventure began.
We ran east, trying to get to Larkscall -- a place none of us have been before.

The Efts and Buzzards along the way were no problem, but then we ran into Hellbenders that started 1-shotting people left and right while other people tried to raise them or run past. In all, only 8 people made it to Larkscall (I wasn't one of them).

It was pretty crazy, but it was a lot of fun. ^^

Giving up on getting 20 people to Larkscall, we then teleported to Dragonhead -- another place we all know well. But instead of heading south to Dzemael, we headed north to Prominence Point.

That was the first time most of us have seen Ishgard, and it was a marvelous sight!
We got a lot of great pictures and all had quite a bit of fun together all night.

Eorzea is huge. There are so many places to explore if you only go looking. ^^

[Rhomagus]

Yes, its not cheating like the post your referencing says but its still a bummer.

Entering a new zone should be
1. exciting
2. scary
3. adventurous

In XIV currently its not.

These all depend on the player. I walked to Mor Dhona and tried to get all the Aetherytes at R15. All of the above were present when attempting to achieve that goal. Your point has been nullified.

[Eekiki]

These all depend on the player. I walked to Mor Dhona and tried to get all the Aetherytes at R15. All of the above were present when attempting to achieve that goal. Your point has been nullified.

Yep.

You can't possibly tell me you didn't think it was at least a *little* cool the first time you saw the Keeper of the Lake in Mor Dhona.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...d4c19715154f30



in other words they added it temporarily while they fixed the system, and then never ended up fixing the system. It was never intended (and makes sense as such because it made the whole fishbotting + alchemy botting a viable option for gil)

That was the old team as well and that same team that got canned from the project. Also that is just crystals and shards which no matter what you say having 999 is way better than 99.

[Ilean]

That was the old team as well and that same team that got canned from the project. Also that is just crystals and shards which no matter what you say having 999 is way better than 99.

Besides, is it really that big that we can have a 9999 stack instead of 10 999 stacks? Especially when they don't really take inventory space...

So nope, he is just whining that the game doesn't match the ideal FFXIV inside his head. Just a poor obsessive mind who can't sleep at night because somewhere someone is enjoying the game in a way he wouldn't.

[Azurymber]

Besides, is it really that big that we can have a 9999 stack instead of 10 999 stacks? Especially when they don't really take inventory space...

So nope, he is just whining that the game doesn't match the ideal FFXIV inside his head. Just a poor obsessive mind who can't sleep at night because somewhere someone is enjoying the game in a way he wouldn't.

actually it matters a lot. before you could get 999 and then you couldn't get more. that means that no one could alchemy bot overnight and wake up to 10,000 crystals and flood the market.

Look at the crystal market now, it fails.

[Ilean]

alchemy bot overnight and wake up to 10,000 crystals and flood the market

interesting!

source?

[Azurymber]

interesting!

source?

crystal wards? go find the bots and watch them craft nearly 24/7 for weeks straight? search "botters" on this forum and read the countless threads bout it?