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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie View Post
    Or, more rationally, it's a temp fix just like they have already stated, and they will later (after the map redesign) be made a full instance with content included. It's just a placeholder.
    where did they state that?
    What they stated was that its instanced now, we will let you choose to "ride" it and pick how long it takes in the future (meaning there couldn't be content or if there was it would be like a private instance since you/your party can only ride yourselves)

    i realize they say there will be airship related content but if your choosing your time then airship rides cant be public, so its another private instance... right?
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    Last edited by Azurymber; 09-09-2011 at 07:53 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie View Post
    Or, more rationally, it's a temp fix just like they have already stated, and they will later (after the map redesign) be made a full instance with content included. It's just a placeholder.
    I wonder why they bothered with spending the time making the airship cutscenes and everything though. A far more rational aproach would have just to set anima costs for City-City warps to 0 for the time being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Instant airships really destroys the sense of immersion for me because it essentially lets you travel to wherever you wanna go instantly for a fee.
    I wont bother reading through all 22 pages of text and ask you personally, who told you that you can use airships in FFXIV to travel to anywhere ?
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    I wonder why they bothered with spending the time making the airship cutscenes and everything though. A far more rational aproach would have just to set anima costs for City-City warps to 0 for the time being.
    Yeah, because the cut scene could never be used when the full version is instituted.

    At any rate, this mountain seems to be in danger of collapsing beneath the weight of the hyperbole being tossed on top of that molehill. Enjoy fretting over what is honestly nothing.
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    it is all to apease the player base, they obviously were planning on making it just like ffxi. they would of opened city ports at some point and all that. but they went with easy instant. but i agree with this change. hey u get u'r changes others get theres. lol. at least this change don't kill the game. tell them to give us back 15man grind parties, or ffxi caps and crazy pain steakin grinds and u can have 5mins on a boat.

    i keep saying it and the more i say it the more i believe it myself, they are just making us happy for starter subs. if they end up secretly giving us a huge expansion at ps3 launch on when p2p starts then my mouth has been shut for me lol.
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    Even though some will hate that I say this, World of Warcraft had the best possible world transportation immersion out of any MMORPG I have played. Ground mounts, flying mounts, ships, airships, boats, tram, gryphons etc. there is more I haven't even named.
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    Here's an amazing concept:

    Are you ready for it?

    I don't think you are.

    Are you sure?

    Really sure?

    Well, okay...

    You don't need the game to force you to do something for you to enjoy doing it!
    Nothing is stopping you from walking if you want to walk!

    ...except for the group of people that you're forcing to wait on you because you wanted to be totally immersed in the experience of spending an hour walking from Gridania to Ul'dah to meet up with them.

    But other than that, nothing~!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaber View Post
    Here's an amazing concept:

    Are you ready for it?

    I don't think you are.

    Are you sure?

    Really sure?

    Well, okay...

    You don't need the game to force you to do something for you to enjoy doing it!
    Nothing is stopping you from walking if you want to walk!

    ...except for the group of people that you're forcing to wait on you because you wanted to be totally immersed in the experience of spending an hour walking from Gridania to Ul'dah to meet up with them.

    But other than that, nothing~!
    again...
    then why not have insta-level button. No one forces you to use it, you can still grind for a month.
    Why not have insta boss-kill. no one forces you to use it, you can still die 50 times tryin to take out that hard boss for good gear
    Why even have an economy ? make a list and let players choose all the equipment they want
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    again...
    then why not have insta-level button. No one forces you to use it, you can still grind for a month.
    Why not have insta boss-kill. no one forces you to use it, you can still die 50 times tryin to take out that hard boss for good gear
    Why even have an economy ? make a list and let players choose all the equipment they want
    Show of hands, who here is wanting to play this game not to fight enemies nor build their character up nor explore nor do raids nor progress through the story, but to hold W for an hour and run around the market wards all day?

    What we have here is a lack of understanding. More specifically, you lack an understanding of how games work.
    Working together with your party to take down a strong enemy is fun. Idling on an airship for ten minutes is not.
    Building up your character is fun. Spending a halfhour running through those hugeass straightaways Gridania is riddled with is not.

    More to the point:
    PURPOSELESS DELAYS ARE NOT A GAMEPLAY ELEMENT
    They are not something you can base a successful game around
    "Lots of pointless waiting before we let you do the thing you actually want to do!" is not something you can put on the back of the box
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    Last edited by Jaber; 09-09-2011 at 01:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaber View Post
    Show of hands, who here is wanting to play this game not to fight enemies nor build their character up nor explore nor do raids nor progress through the story, but to hold W for an hour and run around the market wards all day?

    What we have here is a lack of understanding. More specifically, you lack an understanding of how games work.
    Working together with your party to take down a strong enemy is fun. Idling on an airship for ten minutes is not.
    Building up your character is fun. Spending a halfhour running through those hugeass straightaways Gridania is riddled with is not.

    More to the point:
    PURPOSELESS DELAYS ARE NOT A GAMEPLAY ELEMENT
    They are not something you can base a successful game around
    "Lots of pointless waiting before we let you do the thing you actually want to do!" is not something you can put on the back of the box
    what you call "purposeless delays" i call "immersion", which last i checked was a huge mechanic in gameplay.
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