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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    walking to town for the 1 millionth time is not exploring.
    First of all, yes it is. Whenever you walk through an MMO there is a chance you will come across something you didnt know about before. That is exploring.

    Secondly, by removing the drive of players to ride between towns you derail your ability to create immersive content. Especially when you consider the amount of events that can happen between towns. Adding instant travel encourages players to avoid the vast majority of the game's areas unless they are specifically going to to do a preplanned event. Players will not venture off the beaten path if they can simply instant travel from one place to the next. Once again, that is why Anima porting has a limit.

    Finally, by releasing instant porting first you greatly diminish any advantages that a person might have gained through taking the full length travel. You can't rely on discount prices for non-instant travel because people will have adapted to the current rates. You can't rely on content because it will be ignored in favor of speedy travel or will require rewards so good that people begin to ignore the rest of the game.

    The simple fact is, by making instant travel between cities you are effectively detracting from the rest of the games. The markets suffer, population density suffer, areas become desolate, and future content become greatly limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    First of all, yes it is. Whenever you walk through an MMO there is a chance you will come across something you didnt know about before. That is exploring.

    Secondly, by removing the drive of players to ride between towns you derail your ability to create immersive content. Especially when you consider the amount of events that can happen between towns. Adding instant travel encourages players to avoid the vast majority of the game's areas unless they are specifically going to to do a preplanned event. Players will not venture off the beaten path if they can simply instant travel from one place to the next. Once again, that is why Anima porting has a limit.

    Finally, by releasing instant porting first you greatly diminish any advantages that a person might have gained through taking the full length travel. You can't rely on discount prices for non-instant travel because people will have adapted to the current rates. You can't rely on content because it will be ignored in favor of speedy travel or will require rewards so good that people begin to ignore the rest of the game.

    The simple fact is, by making instant travel between cities you are effectively detracting from the rest of the games. The markets suffer, population density suffer, areas become desolate, and future content become greatly limited.
    Unless you want the airship to travel on land and let you jump off when you see something interesting you're argument in this thread is not valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    First of all, yes it is. Whenever you walk through an MMO there is a chance you will come across something you didnt know about before. That is exploring.

    Secondly, by removing the drive of players to ride between towns you derail your ability to create immersive content. Especially when you consider the amount of events that can happen between towns. Adding instant travel encourages players to avoid the vast majority of the game's areas unless they are specifically going to to do a preplanned event. Players will not venture off the beaten path if they can simply instant travel from one place to the next. Once again, that is why Anima porting has a limit.

    Finally, by releasing instant porting first you greatly diminish any advantages that a person might have gained through taking the full length travel. You can't rely on discount prices for non-instant travel because people will have adapted to the current rates. You can't rely on content because it will be ignored in favor of speedy travel or will require rewards so good that people begin to ignore the rest of the game.

    The simple fact is, by making instant travel between cities you are effectively detracting from the rest of the games. The markets suffer, population density suffer, areas become desolate, and future content become greatly limited.
    i been walking for 1 year to each of the 3 cities and i have never saw anything new outside of an update. exploring means to look for something you have not seen or been to before. Not walk the same path 14 times a day. this is one of the stupidest debates i have ever seen. Thats like saying im exploring on my way to work, or school, or im exploring when i go home after work.... thats silly. Theres a chance i can see things i never saw before going to work but after 5 years coming here and going the same route its still exporing to you? thats crazy.

    So no its not.
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    if it is still going by doing the fastest witch it is, running places is still same. just means people go to the closest places. hell dunno how many times people will try over camp u in ffxi cause to lazy to go other spots. or heck i'v had people bitch and say i want to stay over leaving cause another group ninja there b4 we got there. instead of ....running to the other, they even leave party at times lol. but what i'm saying though is it's the same quickest thing is port or quickest run ...the run was pointless though, if all are instant u still have choices that are little better.

    but again this thread has pushed huge leaps, its a 5min boat ride, it's gonna save everyone 3-20anima a day for leves, and locals and wards that is all. soon we get choco on top of that and we will have newer stuff not seen? i do agree it's the journey there but not when it comes to the actual running around. and don't forget one day we will have so much content event he most casual won't have any anima left to keep up.
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    At OP, you have no idea what you are talking about, maybe you play everyday but does not mean you "play" everyday and have 90 Anima left.

    Please stop wasting everyone's time with this ridiculous topic that will never get a common agreement among players. Bottom line:

    1- Until there is another way of transportation (teleports) airships ride need to be short or non existent
    2- Scenery might be nice for the first 1 zillion time but enough is enough
    3- If you wanna enjoy the game your way then by all means go about walking between point A and point B but don't expect that people will agree to waste their time for your or others amusement. We have other things to do that we rather invest whatever short time we have between work and family to actually play the game not gog at something for even 5 min (not counting the wait time for the arrival and departure of the ship)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sontawila View Post
    At OP, you have no idea what you are talking about, maybe you play everyday but does not mean you "play" everyday and have 90 Anima left.

    Please stop wasting everyone's time with this ridiculous topic that will never get a common agreement among players. Bottom line:

    1- Until there is another way of transportation (teleports) airships ride need to be short or non existent
    2- Scenery might be nice for the first 1 zillion time but enough is enough
    3- If you wanna enjoy the game your way then by all means go about walking between point A and point B but don't expect that people will agree to waste their time for your or others amusement. We have other things to do that we rather invest whatever short time we have between work and family to actually play the game not gog at something for even 5 min (not counting the wait time for the arrival and departure of the ship)
    First of all, you have no idea what your talking about. I'm not wasting anyone's time its your CHOICE TO READ AND REPLY. Just like its my choice to ride the ship, ride chocobos, never use anima again. If you would have read other posts of mine on here, you would have seen that "option to ride" will be taken away, BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD NOT WANT TO PLAY WITH THOSE WHO WAIST THEIR TIME. You even said it yourself, pretty much. I also said make the boat ride 1min long. At max that's a 3min wait. One minute for the ride, one minute for the depart wait, one minute for the wait of the ship to get there. People have no excuse about "NO ANIMA TO TELE" Chocobos just like ^ the guy said before(Kiote) me and what I've stated as well, it will cut anima by a ton. I'm asking for a working world, not some physic defying mess.
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    The argument that instant is necessarily because walking takes too much time is not really valid. Walking takes 20 mins a normal airship ride would take 3-5 mins. That is already a massive short cut. There is not need to bring it down to instant because you already have anima for that.

    Chocobos will reduce anima use by eliminating the need to port to any camp level 30 and under.
    A regular airship would reduce anima use by eliminating the need to port from town to town.
    Return already allows you to get to the place you use most without using anima

    Those three things alone will cut your anima use in half. There is no need to make airships instant because you will have the anima to spare from now on if you desperately need to get to a town instantly.

    I would also like to add that the airships in FFXI only took so long because you actually had to wait for them to arrive and take off. That problem is eliminated by simply making airship constantly run rather than once every 12 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamis View Post
    You "long airship ride for everyone" people amuse me. You are going to be given the oportunity to take a long airship ride while others that choose not to will have that choice also.


    If you want a long airship ride, take it. Other than that STFU and mind your own business about what other people are doing.
    Ok, tell that to the people who will be sitting around for me while i ride there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamis View Post
    You "long airship ride for everyone" people amuse me. You are going to be given the oportunity to take a long airship ride while others that choose not to will have that choice also.


    If you want a long airship ride, take it. Other than that STFU and mind your own business about what other people are doing.
    It's not about worrying about what other people do.. it's how this game is changing and bending to these types of people. How thick could you get?
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