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  1. #51
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    I'd love to know what all these buffs were... cause I really don't remember lancer getting any that weren't also shared with other classes. Only largely lancer-centric buff I can recall was the rebalancing of medium armor defense stats to give it a bit more magic survivability. That was more a PvE buff, though, given how the going joke was that if a mouse farted on a distant hill, the wind alone would kill a lancer. But hey, maybe you just don't have your mouse minion yet to kill the lancer for you.
    1 or 2 combo chains got their position requirements removed.
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-02-2015 at 10:48 PM.

  2. #52
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Because they are not, MNK beats NIN in most fights. NIN can burst and spike faster at the start, but over the fight MNK pushes and stays ahead. If a NIN is pushing ahead of you and staying ahead of you, it's either due to gear difference, or skill. Equal skill and equal gear, MNK beats NIN.
    Not really true, NIN trumps MNK 99% of the time, and they add to raid DPS which MNK doesn't have. So in terms of contributing to the raid's DPS, even if the NIN parsed slightly lower than the MNK on it's own, it'd still outparse the MNK overall. It's a really small difference between all 3 melee DPS, though, so I wouldn't say NIN is "overpowered" especially since it lacks defensive raid utility, same with DRG.
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  3. #53
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Goblin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    ... I really think this entire conversation is irrelevant. Power scaling and comparisons are likely going to shift with the new expansion coming out late next month. Let's worry about who's 'overpowered' then.

    Though... I do feel as if the OP is basing this more on PvP than anything. DRGs are great Duelists, but that does not mean they win the fight for you.
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  4. #54
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    Onywen Fraelia
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    Literally the first time I've heard dragoon and OP in the same sentence.
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  5. #55
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    Noutaja's Avatar
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    Rebel Soul
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Dragoons are NOT overpowered, they have the highest burst dmg compared to monk/ninja but lack behind in continuous single target dps. End of story.
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  6. #56
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    Yumi Umi
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    The majority of dragoons r scrubs and we all know it, including SE ( as they even joke about it in the titan ex 8 bit duty commence vid )
    Now that 3.0 made drgns the "look at me" poster child, chances r ur gonna be seeing A LOT of dead dragoon npcs and players.
    I'll be like you can't be serious.....
    The dead dragoons reply " yea we r serious, now stfu and rez me u noob".
    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy just why lol
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  7. #57
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    The majority of dragoons r scrubs and we all know it, including SE ( as they even joke about it in the titan ex 8 bit duty commence vid )
    Now that 3.0 made drgns the "look at me" poster child, chances r ur gonna be seeing A LOT of dead dragoon npcs and players.
    I'll be like you can't be serious.....
    The dead dragoons reply " yea we r serious, now stfu and rez me u noob".
    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy just why lol
    DRK will be the new DRG come 3.0
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  8. #58
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    Lisotte Poena
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Wait... people do pvp in this game? Buahahahahahahaha
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  9. #59
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    Adrian Ryder
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    No, no. OP is right. Let's go back to Dragoon having terrible Jump animation lock, punishing positionals, long OGCD timers, and low magic defense to the point where Final Coil bosses can kill you by just sneezing on you.

    Absolutely not. Dragoon is perfectly fine.
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  10. #60
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Instead of complaining about Dragoon, why don't you try and get Summoner some help?

    *cough cough* most dragoons are dead anyways lol JK JK calm yourself dragoon mains
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