Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

[GenJoe]

The tank is not the slave of the group? But the way you phrase it, it seems to me that you are suggesting that the group is the slave of the tank... Why should three people have to follow what one person wants? Pretty sure the one person should follow the three.

You guys are all missing the point here..
Nobody HAS TO FOLLOW ANYBODY. If you don't like it and you're in the majority, KICK the oddball.
If you're in the minority, don't cry when you get kicked, OR leave before it comes to that.

It's just the state of things that healers and tanks have an advantage in this regard because they can requeue much quicker than dps, but is anyone seriously going to argue about the ethics of that?


P.S. Have you noticed lately that Healers are the ones that actually get instaqueued? Not the tanks? Just some food for thought if you thought you had no leverage against a dicky tank, he has to wait in DF too, albeit only a few minutes.

[PULSeTHIRTeeN]

To every DPS saying we are entitled, demanding, bossy, dictator assholes...Please level a tank, enjoy how shitty a job it is to make sure everything goes right and come back here to tell me we are wrong to dictate the flow.

If not, enjoy those queues.

[Lexarious]

To every DPS saying we are entitled, demanding, bossy, dictator assholes...Please level a tank, enjoy how shitty a job it is to make sure everything goes right and come back here to tell me we are wrong to dictate the flow.

If not, enjoy those queues.

It's not hard

[PULSeTHIRTeeN]

It's not hard

I never said tanking was hard, but its the job most don't want to do because it's not as fun as DDing.

[Lexarious]

I never said tanking was hard, but its the job most don't want to do because it's not as fun as DDing.

Some people find it fun, some don't. Obviously more find dps fun but well I don't see why that matters. Don't find it fun? Don't play it. It's kind of dumb to play something you don't like and then act entitled about it. I prefer dpsing but I still act the same when I play a tank. With that said..far as the op goes, the group should decide on if you're skipping or not. I just get tired of how whiny tanks can be(really its everyone but I find more issues with tanks).

[PULSeTHIRTeeN]

Some people find it fun, some don't. Obviously more find dps fun but well I don't see why that matters. Don't find it fun? Don't play it. It's kind of dumb to play something you don't like and then act entitled about it. I prefer dpsing but I still act the same when I play a tank. With that said..far as the op goes, the group should decide on if you're skipping or not. I just get tired of how whiny tanks can be(really its everyone but I find more issues with tanks).

I agree that tanks shouldn't act entitled ( just like healers for that matter but we don't talk about them...) but DDs also need to understand the tank leads the charge and unless you're willing to kick him and wait for another, it would be best to comply if he's zero open to suggestions rather than acting like an ass if they get told "no". If you want to run the show, roll a tank, learn the fights, profit???

[Intaki]

To every DPS saying we are entitled, demanding, bossy, dictator assholes...Please level a tank, enjoy how shitty a job it is to make sure everything goes right and come back here to tell me we are wrong to dictate the flow.

If not, enjoy those queues.

Healer leveled on this character, tank leveled fully on another.

Tanking is not hard. The first time tanking something ever? Very hard. The fifth time? Mind-numbingly easy.

Tanks may have a high skill floor, but it's a few thousand feet below a damage dealer's skill cap.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

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And yet, if the tank dies, everybody dies. If the DPS dies, you raise them and it's all good. It's not about if it's hard or not, it's about the resposability you have. Also, as a tank, you're the most exposed to people. Since you pretty much gotta run ahead of the group, you'll find a lot of demanding people telling you what to do and judging you: If you pull 2 monsters only, if you pull all of them, it's really noticeable if you don't use cds, the healer will remember that. If you're too slow, if you're too fast. If you grab a group of monsters that one of the DPS didn't like (He'll probably let you know). Also, for example, there's only 3 tanks spot in ST and WoD. So people will wait for YOU. You're 1 out of 3 tanks out of 22 guys trapped in a raid looking at YOU. Waiting for YOU to move. Try to please them all. As a DPS, you'll be mostly un-noticeable.

PD: I play tank (paladin and warrior), healer (scholar) and DPS (dragoon and blackmage).

what y'all need to do is stop telling people what to do in parties. I don't let anybody tell me how to dps, and don't let anybody tell me how to tank. if you have a suggestion, have it come with a "could you............... please" and i will consider it.

You would be surprised how people incredibly manage it to turn every kind suggestion into a direct attack to their egos. It's really hard to give a suggestion in this game for some reason. No matter how kind you are, if you use a smiley at the end of the sentence. Whatever you do, there will be people who will turn back, stare at you and send you to hell. Either that or just ignore you and still do their own.

[Intaki]

And yet, if the tank dies, everybody dies.

Depending on the healer... not really. Outside of the higher levels of content (EX Primals+ basically) a good healer can make any decently geared DPS a tank.