Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

[nuyu11]

the keyboard warriors in this thread is real...

Better polish it on warrior skills.

[LTEvil]

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I was trying to not respond but you called that one out so well. Nicely done. Take my likesss.

Anyone have popcorn?

[myahele]

There's this thread going on too: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/67805...eborn/71758124

[Krylo]

There's this thread going on too: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/67805...eborn/71758124

Not sure how that relates to this?

Also: Lol, monk don't have good AoE. Perf Balance -> Rockbreaker = 5 Rockbreakers right out the gate at 130 potency with GL 3 for the last two, then invigorate -> if 5 + enemies in pull Arm of Destroyer -> Twin Snakes -> Rock breaker, etc. Once TP gets low again just start spreading dots if you're not geared that well, or if you were at that point just wipe up the stragglers with a normal combo or three. It might not match BLM or proper drg AoE (beats the DRGs that spam unprocced ring of thorns instead of doom spike, though), but it's definitely good enough to make large pulls worthwhile.

Though I'll grant to that guy, whomever he may be, that a lot of monks don't do that and just go bootshine, twin snake, snap punch, dragonkick, true strike, snap punch ad infinitum. If you're lucky maybe they demolish some dudes. So, you know. Fair assessment to make, I guess.

[StrejdaTom]

"I don't think you understand how the tank's role works."
"I believe people are getting the wrong idea then. Not surprised given how clear it is that some haven't even read much into this topic."
"SE's design of the tanking role seems to insinuate that they should have the final say in this matter."
"Me, as the person intended to do pulls by SE, choosing to do pulls as I want in the event of a tie, rather than give the other side what they want does not make me entitled, especially after being demanded and told pretty much "you are our slave" unless you consider the role itself entitled.
"This concept should have been learned in school, so I'll assume you know it's meaning?"
"I wish I knew Japanese and didn't have terrible internet, I feel like I belong on a JP server lately."
"Guessing you didn't reach much of my post."
"It's sad I have to defend myself in this way from you, and sad that you're getting likes. If only people would read a little more."
"Please re-read. I think you missed many points in my posts."
"If I am coming off as "entitled" from my responses to people as you say, it's probably because so many people are missing things that I've said, and some are manipulating the meanings of my words to suit their ends."
"Yet another sensational post, sure to gather the likes of the easily entertained and sure to ignore any relevant points. Kudos to you, sir."
"Please, for the love of the gods, READ."
"Yep, you are being a sensationalist. Because you're ignoring the facts. There was a tie. I was the tank. It's my job to pull, so I pulled. The dps pulled too, but that's not his job."
"If I am the tank, my vote should be the tiebreaker if mob pulling is the problem."
"Well, like I said. You reap what you sow. This community has lost one good tank who is willing to do clears if treated like a human being."
"Have a nice day, you just proved my point. If you aren't willing to read, then please do not post with the tenacity of someone who has read. Choosing to be ignorant about something and then speaking about it anyways is not a good thing to do."
"You didn't read anything I said or only picked out what you wanted to acknowledge."
"There is no hypocrisy here friend. Read a bit more, and you'd know!"

Definition of entitlement: the feeling or belief that you deserve to be given something (such as special privileges). As you said that SE chose you to be tiebreaker as a tank.. well.. the definition..

Even if you are right or not, people will call you entitled if you act like entitled. Unforunately 40 pages weren't enough for you to get it and other 40 wouldn't be enought too. And I wanted not to scroll back 3 pages lol. Definitely worth it.

[Tuathaa]

Definition of entitlement: the feeling or belief that you deserve to be given something (such as special privileges). As you said that SE chose you to be tiebreaker as a tank.. well.. the definition.

SE did not choose the tank to be the tie breaker they choose a random player to be leader which is designated by the L next to their portrait in the player list. Ultimately it is the party leaders say and not some random dps, tank, or healer.

[DSaint]

I think there is a huge difference between being a leader and a boss.

A leader is meant to LEAD, not to give orders or take final decisions.
So yeah, a Tank is the party leader, but not party boss.
Tank is just meant to lead, not to decide alone if runs will be 'full clear' or 'fast clear', or if group will deal with massive pulls or not. It's up to the group to decide things altogether (if you running with a premade party, you guys can decide who is going to be the boss).
Nothing in this game (raid, dgns) can be done without a specific party role. But be pretty sure: Anything can be done without YOU (yeah!! you there!!! Reading my post!!! lol).
By: A tank, tanking to protect my comrades =P

Btw, I hope I'm not off topic xD just my 2c

[Misha_Snow]

As a tank I usually have the habit of checking other players gear, after that if the DPS have potential I ask the healer if he's ok with big pulls and I do a "test" pull. If we pass it then we can move on normally otherwise I switch to small pulls. If a DPS doesn't agree they can leave or vote kick me, I prefer not to argue for no reason. In the CT case, I refuse to go there as tank anymore. It's frustrating when someone with an atma/zenith weap keeps using provoke and failing or people with AF gear that want to MT and end up dying. Many tanks I met either have the "God complex" or are like props from the cut-scenes, rarely I find someone that can put the raid success before his ego. On the DPS side luckly I haven't met many that care more about their parser than the clear. But when I do, I try to remember them that the party came there with a goal and that they can go hit the training dummies if they don't agree.

[LTEvil]

I just want all the lurkers who have read every post but don't want to join in to know one thing.


This is why we can't have nice things on the forums.
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[BreathlessTao]

Sweet f×××××× Menphina and all the love potions in the world! Why is this thread still going on does this thread still exist???