Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

[Waliel]

Well, as a tank you're intended to determine what should be pulled and when it is pulled, no?

The game is sort of designed that way O.o. it's the tank's job.

What is a tank's job? Their job is to keep aggro, initiate mob pulls, soak up damage from aggro'd mobs.

So I am entitled for choosing to not kill optional mobs, when it's my role to make that choice in the first place? Okay then....

About forty or more other similiar things.

Technically tank's only job is to keep the bad guys off of everyone else. Tank pulling them just makes it easier to start doing that job. There is no job in this game that is "built to do pulls".

Did SE not build tanks to be the best suited to pulling?

Just to play devil's advocate, you could argue that tanks are the worst at pulling; Shield Lob and Tomahawk only have 15yd range compared to 25yd of every dps skill and using Provoke to pull is just stupid. Well, I guess Monks would be worse.

In reality, though, there is no situation where you just can't run in and hug the mobs, so it doesn't really matter.

This thread certainly was an entertaining read.

[Ashkendor]

Faster queue times isn't a licence to treat people terribly. That's just individuals with poor attitudes taking advantage of a limited report system and the Tank shortage.

I can't imagine treating players that way on my Warrior. I'm sorry this sort of attitude is just deplorable.

Makes me hope there's a large bandwagon of those hopping on Dark Knight that weren't tanks before and stick with it.

Neither is the fact that you've set in the queue for 30+ minutes. A few people in this thread have cited that as a reason that DPS are more entitled to act entitled than tanks and heals. That's... kinda silly. As a DPS, I'm happy just to get into an instance with the queues being what they are. If I want fast queues, I go tank or heals. *shrugs*

As far as DRK, you'll see an initial rush as people level it, but most will probably go back to their mains.

Honestly, I just see a breakdown in communication in the OP. The bard should've been nicer. The OP should've responded better to his rudeness. I get that the initial knee-jerk reaction to someone being an asshole is to do exactly the opposite of what they demand of you, but it doesn't help you get the instance done. Personally, I would've commented on his rudeness to see if it'd make him step back a notch. If he had more rudeness in store, vote kick is an option if I'm in there with a friend. Odds are that once he's gone the healer will leave anyway and we can either wait a few minutes, ask friends from linkshelles/static, or bail and hopefully get someone more agreeable when we requeue.

Someone else's bad attitude does not excuse your own.

Pretty much. By the same token, I don't expect anyone to just sit back and let someone treat them like crap though.

[XgungraveX]

As far as DRK, you'll see an initial rush as people level it, but most will probably go back to their mains.

nah i pretty much made of my mind and making machinist my main when heavensward drops, i mean it sucks that i got my war fully decked with 130i gear and the zeta weapon.... oh well :/ ill use that job for fast que to hit tome caps.

[Skeith-Adeline]

DPS aren't leash pets and have say in what should happen. It was 2 v 2, in which common ground should have been found. Tanks aren't entitled to dungeon leaders anyways.

[Kuurei]

DPS aren't leash pets and have say in what should happen. It was 2 v 2, in which common ground should have been found. Tanks aren't entitled to dungeon leaders anyways.

90% of the tank's job actually entails being group leader...>.> Otherwise we shouldn't be the ones shouldering the blame every time healers or DPS fail at their jobs.

[Skeith-Adeline]

90% of the tank's job actually entails being group leader...>.> Otherwise we shouldn't be the ones shouldering the blame every time healers or DPS fail at their jobs.

Why would it be a tanks fault if the healer didn't heal, or the DPS sucks? That makes no sense?

Tanks control the pace of the instance, not the entire instance itself.

[GenJoe]

Why would it be a tanks fault if the healer didn't heal, or the DPS sucks? That makes no sense?

Tanks control the pace of the instance, not the entire instance itself.

It isn't.. But the first step of a wipe = dead tank.
So without closer inspection of the underlying causes, you can't tell whose fault it was.. blaming tank is just the conclusion many noobs reach when they're unable to comprehend what just happened.

In many cases, that's the exact mind set upon a wipe "What just happened?"
"Oh, tank is dead, must be a noob tank"

Because most DPS tunnel vision and rarely ever watch the healer's heal output.

[Hyrist]

90% of the tank's job actually entails being group leader...>.> Otherwise we shouldn't be the ones shouldering the blame every time healers or DPS fail at their jobs.

Only idiots force blame purely on another. Give tips and reasoning and you work together to solve problems. Tanks that get shouldered the blame for a groups failings aren't alone in their burden. Healers and DPS get blamed all the time.

That's the blame game that's the problem, not an excuse to carry the 'leader' delusion.

You're "on point" not "leader". You're the first monkey forward in a group of four monkeys all doing their jobs. It's wrong for any of the monkeys to fling their dung around.

[cgbspender]

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[DeadRiser]

I can't believe you joined a low level dungeon, and expected people not to say that.

Do you know how long the queues can be for those lower level dungeons as a dps? And no, I don't play dps that often. I main healer. But when I queue as a tank, even if I need to get out of there quickly, I am still kind enough to pull everything because it's not all about me.

There are FOUR players in your party, not two and then two more. It's funny you speak of how dps are entitled, yet here you are a person probably level synced...making the people trying to level get out the dungeon quicker instead of getting the experience they joined for in the first place.

Also, this is not your blog. Tumblr is that way >>>>>