Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

[Veji]

As a tank, i live by one very simple rule: "You pull it, you own it." Has worked for up until this point. I see no issues here.

[charlemagne]

The guy could have asked in a nicer way, but to be fair you were just as rude to ignore him and do whatever you wanted. The whole bad experience could have been avoided if you'd just replied to him and had a conversation about it instead of just going off and doing w/e you wanted.
This is a team game. You as a tank can no more do the run without your dps than they can without you or the healer, or the healer can without the tank or dps.

[cgbspender]

I come across players who regularly ask for a full run. Especially when they are somewhere between 45-50, as they are quite impatient to reach the "finish" line. That said, there are means to ask.

"Would you PLEASE kill everything ? I need exp" >>> Trick question : find the key word.

That said, I understand perefectly that a tank will refuse to comply if the player hasn't even enough politeness for a mere courteousy like "please". I main WhM and I don't tank at that level yet, but pulling extra mobs is the worst reaction anyone could be having. All the more as it was in Dzemael.


You wanna pull extra mobs and bring them to the tank ? Ok. It's better be your lucky day then, because if the tank refuses (his utter right) to grab them, I'm not gonna heal TWO tanks at the same time. Let alone 3. And obviously, you're not priority in my "to-heal" list.
Some of the areas in DD requiere full focus from the healer on the tank (the area where you can find red crystals/ toads essentially). You're walking in Aoe ? Fine, I'll heal you. You're making mistakes in your placing all througout the dungeon ? Fine I'll heal you too. You make things unecessarily harder for me by pulling extra mobs and act like a spoiled kid tank when you DON'T have the VIT and DEF to back it up ? No no no.

In all honesty, there are only a couple occasions I had to be a substitute tank. When I play as a DPS and I notice we forgot some mechanisms earlier in a dungeon, I'll usually say "I'm gonna do it, I'll catch up", and if by mistake, I catch an add on my way, I warn the tank immediatly and apologize.

Just a matter of respect. For anyone in the party.

The first "discussion" they had when entering the dungeon is about ethics, certainly. And you may, or may not agree with one's decision. But the tank knows best how many mobs he can handle. Anything "extra" is just increasing the risk of wipes.

Grab 6/7 mobs in that crystal and toads area and I'll be able to heal you all. Bring 8 or more ? Start praying Byregot, because I'm not likely to have enough mana or spellspeed to keep up with the damages done.

[XgungraveX]

In all honesty, there are only a couple occasions I had to be a substitute tank.

disgusting.... i always project my healers or i don't stand for long :3

[CUTS3R]

As everyone (read tank players) has said, I most definitely will see myself out, or let you kick me. I'll get back in a dungeon in no time flat (see tank queue times). Feel free to continue thinking that it's not the tanks job to control the pace, and you'll find that dungeon runs will become more and more frustrating until you finally quit the game. So really, get with the program or switch to a tank class and do it your own way. Those are really your only options: 1: Quit, 2: Let the tank drive, or 3: play as a tank.

LMAO



/10char.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Thank goodness I have my FC and LS friends so I don't got to deal with entitlement in general.

[Delsus]

I might gear my SCH and show these entitled tanks they aren't everything

[Katana190]

So much disrespect for tanks! D: As a tank, sure I feel entitled, yeahhh, I said it, I feel pretty entitled with my insta queue, who the hell are you to tell me, that because we have insta queues we should feel less entitled? The fahk? Its not mine or another other tanks fault we are short in supply, its just how the holy trinity works lel. We are the leaders of the instance, and decide on the pace, doesn't mean we're not open to suggestions. Want me to pull more? Sure. Need a few seconds before the next pull/boss? Sure. My only condition is decency, if you ask politely then I'll of course oblige.

[Magistrella]

We are the leaders of the instance, and decide on the pace, doesn't mean we're not open to suggestions. Want me to pull more? Sure. Need a few seconds before the next pull/boss? Sure. My only condition is decency, if you ask politely then I'll of course oblige.

This - obnoxious people that throw demands in my face will get nothing but a smirk and a "Don't like it? Kick me." I will get another entry in less then one minute, you will have to wait for a replacement or a new que. If you ask nicely with politeness like a half decent human being - i wont mind. I'm not throwing in your face that you suck at your class so don't do that with me either - which you do by telling me to pull more or less then im capable/comfortable with.

Strange how tone/manners makes the difference in getting what you want, eh?

So you go by gear rather than player skill, here's something for you I have SCH level 50, and I haven't touched it, now I could greed on all WoD healer gear, and get the Soldiary weapon, maybe even upgrade it from ST, now here's me as a SCH not touched since I got it to 50 it high iLvl gear and decided to start playing it, what would you do then? All I see is an "I know better than you" just because a. you are a tank and b. you have looked at my gear and you assume I am a capable healer, so you start pulling large pulls, what would happen when you were dying?

Easy: I'd adjust my playstyle to the situation instead of lashing out to you. Are you really so stuck in your thinking, believing that EVERYONE would just call you words instead of reacting to the situation properly?

Yes, i will judge you by gear at the start of the dungeon, thats the only thing i can do really quickly without having played with you first. And if you wear full 120 on the left side ill probably assume that its not your main, because, yknow you'd wear other stuff if it was. And after that: If the first pull goes wrong i will change my pulling behavior fitting the needs of the group im in to get it done smoothly. Because thats why im in there actually, to get it done, and im not looking for any drama or bullshitting.

And yes, i probably will know it better then you. I'm playing tank since 2.0 release, do new instances on the first day, so i know what im getting in when i DF it later on, pay attention to mechanics, know which mobs hit how hard, know how many mobs stand in a dungeon at which point, know which AoEs they do and if they're ranged/melee, and according to that i find out how many mobs i can pull when and where without being too demanding on the group.

*type hype* off to tank some more stuff, so far people havent complained in weeks about me :P

[Warlyx]

and thats a perfect example of what is wrong with mmorpg players nowdays.... /sigh