Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Kona_Nightwind]

So figuring that A4S acc is around 550-560 and prioritizing crit. I'm looking at this for bis http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/RAB4

[KroLeXz]

530 is confirmed accuracy cap read multiple sources on reddit.

[pandabearcat]

Oh god spreadsheets. *shudder*

[KroLeXz]

The only variation I do from sleigh opener is after DF I do miasma II than contagion. A contagion miasma II is still better than a ruin cast.

[Kona_Nightwind]

530 is confirmed accuracy cap read multiple sources on reddit.

I can't seem to find this multiple sources guy. Does he have a special character in his name?

[Havenchild]

Thing on rotations that I wrote somewhere else, maybe it will be useful to you:


Tell me if I've messed up something...

As for my opener, one thing I guess I should state is that the Tri-Disaster placement is interchanged with the Aetherflow +Contagion set, depending on when the Ninja's Trick Attack is falling off.

Sometimes by the time I use Ruin II the second time under DWT, Trick Attack JUST fell off. If this is the case, I switch the Tri-Disaster with the Aetherflow post first Ruin II. However, if that's not the case, the Tri Disaster will be grouped with the Contagion, after the second Ruin II in DWT.

Depending on how I place it would swap about 100 potency in theory depending on tick timing, but it's also for the sake of catching that bigger bonus from Trick Attack.

I'm also assuming you aren't counting pre-casts here, which could change that potency under DWT depending on when the tick lands I suppose.

[Sylkis]

With Rouse + Spur Enkindle is roughly 490 potency, so missing pot on that is a bit more painful than just a 250 potency Enkindle.

The main thing wrong with the 3 Fester opener you compared against the others is, you're going to miss Battle Voice/Litany/Trick Attack on your highest burst period. If your DRG pops Litany anywhere from 0-3s after pull, you are forced into a 15s DWT opener, lest you want your 3D to not get Litany + RS + pot + DWT.

Ah ok, I guess that's the thing, we don't have BRD or NIN in our group (SMN DRG MNK MCH). Not sure when DRG uses Litany

I'm also assuming you aren't counting pre-casts here, which could change that potency under DWT depending on when the tick lands I suppose.

Do you mean casting Bio2 before the fight starts? Can just take off -2.5s off the start time of everything otherwise its the same

[Jaeifer]

so a blm that leveled smn for A2s and hasn't had much play on it,any A2s tips(and aoe tips in general),i always burn through alot of aetherflow on one wave and have nothing for the next,and dreadwyrm stance throws everything off

Dude the only thing I can recommend you is to stay Black Mage.
If you haven't played Summoner Lv60 much before it's unlikely that you will be able to pull higher numbers on it compared to Black Mage.
(Not to mention that Black Mages are still the second best AoE class for the fight past Summoner.)

Unless you really want to play Summoner there, stay as Black Mage for it as Summoners are in no way or shape required for it.

[Alkimi]

Do you have any tips for A1? I'm consistently pulling around 1000dps when I should be around 1.2k. I'm dotting 0.5 every time 3D is ocd and bane-ing onto adds. Can't think of any thing else I needa do O:

1k+ is fine for A2 with current gear. Depends on stuff like how much Requiem (if any) you get and knowing exactly when the jumps occur for best use and timing of Aetherflow/DWT. Once the first phase is done everything is on around a 2 minute cycle so ideally you want to use 6 Aetherflow abilities and 2xDWT before the bosses jump each time.

[Dervy]

Big thanks to Scylla Messina. I now have a roughly working damage formula for you Summoners:

=ROUNDDOWN(((POTENCY/100)*(MD*0.0394452+1)*(INT*0.1218814)*(DET*0.0001295+1)*BUFFS)-3)

Only works for spells, sorry book-whackers. No info on Pets either.

Getting closer to finishing off my Summoner Rotation model as well. Summoner is so haaaarrdddd