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  1. #531
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Dancer Lv 90
    All stats scaling is pretty meh. Both crit and SS are kinda meh. It takes too many stat points to increase any secondary significantly.

    The difference in dps between any food (HQ or not, "best" stats or not) is going to be on the order of like 1-10 dps. Completely not relevant. Go with what is cheaper =D

    SS does not affect festers/deathflare, but is still much better than before.

    I haven't had the issue of needing more accuracy. Unless all the gordian gear has absolutely none on it, I'm pretty sure (esp since we have ZERO choice in gear atm) there is no point in accuracy foods. If it turns out savage has extreme acc requirements then we will eat acc food, but for now, we are way overcap in just law gear.
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    Last edited by pandabearcat; 07-14-2015 at 09:30 PM.

  2. #532
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    Kona Nightwind
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    Guide to gearing in Heavansword-
    Wear the piece with the most Int. End of guide.
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  3. #533
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    Miru West
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    Behemoth
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    Monk Lv 70
    So has it been stated yet if Ifrit benefits from Slash debuff or blunt debuff anymore?
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  4. #534
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    It benefits from magic debuff as all of its damage is now magical.
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  5. #535
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    ahh thats lame so now the gap btwn them is even closer.
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  6. #536
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiruWest View Post
    ahh thats lame so now the gap btwn them is even closer.
    No, ifrit is pretty much the clear winner unless you are constantly baning.
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  7. #537
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    In terms of starting rotation, I haven't heard of one that's standing out far above the rest but a lot of people seem to be stacking Raging / Pot and and such right before entering DWT.

    Something similar to this:

    Bio II - Miasma - Bio -> Painflare/Fester -> Ruin II -> Swift Shadow -> Rouse/Spur -> Ruin II -> Raging Strikes -> Ruin II -> INT Pot-> Painflare/AF -> DWT -> Fester -> Ruin III - Ruin II -> Tri-D/Enkindle -> Ruin III (Contagion)-> Ruin III -> Ruin III -> Fester -> Deathflare.

    Then follow the above rules. I'm not saying this is the best rotation atm, only that it's one of the decent ones. I personally do things alil different (place RS somewhere earlier)but I haven't tested all of them yet to see which was better.
    I'm liking the new Primals/Raids so far since each one seems to require a slightly different opener to optimize your damage.

    i.e.
    Ravana - B2MB -> Fester X 3 - Hold DWT burst for Liberation (Each Liberation lines up with DWT from this point on as well as Butterfly Phase)
    Bis EX - Dot, Bane, Pain adds - Burst on Spine etc
    Alex Turn 3 - I hate opening with Pain Flare (I'd rather just use up my Festers) But.....in order to fit the initial rotation in just before the boss swaps forms and you lose DWT, I found you have to use Pain Flare @ the start. Which then lines up nice for Double Hands.

    Pretty well all kinds of this stuff in all the fights. Pretty nice IMO from the typical coils.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 07-15-2015 at 11:36 AM.
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  8. #538
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    A4 - dot both legs to inflate numbers =P

    ...then get sucked in and cry.
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  9. #539
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiruWest View Post
    ahh thats lame so now the gap btwn them is even closer.
    nope ifrit wins on single target, im around 40-50ish dps higher with ifrit on a dummy parse and as for aoes if everything dies fast then ifrit is the one to choose for trash otherwise garuda all the way. I still use garuda for fights that require mobility and target isn't quite stationary.



    I parsed with astro buffs on a dummy, it feels like spear is the best buff for smns during aoes although arrow during dwt is just awesome <3
    sadly my highest parse with ast at i182 was around 1200 dps with screw ups, balance is awesome too especially with foes and battle voice, omg that damage burst is INSANE on the opener!
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  10. #540
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    Philia Felice
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Minorinz View Post
    nope ifrit wins on single target, im around 40-50ish dps higher with ifrit on a dummy parse and as for aoes if everything dies fast then ifrit is the one to choose for trash otherwise garuda all the way. I still use garuda for fights that require mobility and target isn't quite stationary.



    I parsed with astro buffs on a dummy, it feels like spear is the best buff for smns during aoes although arrow during dwt is just awesome <3
    sadly my highest parse with ast at i182 was around 1200 dps with screw ups, balance is awesome too especially with foes and battle voice, omg that damage burst is INSANE on the opener!
    What do you get without AST, using Ifrit? I'm getting about 1050-1100 no party. Using 1P/2F opener, pot a GCD after Shadowflare. I'm thinking Ifrit's still the go to pet in 3.0 if Radiant Shield can do some work but gotta do more testing, cause I generally don't get the 1,100 people report while using Garuda, on a dummy, so I might be making a mistake here or there unknowingly.
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