Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Primm]

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http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/WV7Q

I looked it up and it nets you a total stat weight of 3068,17. If you would switch the buffood to priestly omelette and the head and shoes to Alexandrian, you would achieve a stat weight of 3074,513 even though you will have 635 accuracy then.

I think right now http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/WXPX is BiS for Summoner. If someone finds an improvement .. let me know

[Neela]

S-so SS is the way to go now?! Figures there's practically no gear with both crit and ss this tier.

In light of this here's a little bis I whipped up, it will be better with an upgraded anima weapon with crit and ss

funny how things are changing... i always gone for crit/ss especially with smn and brd.
so i did it with the ilvl 240 Anima on both cls - not less people laughed about that and asked "why? where is the det?!"

well... now with the latest stat weight statistic all lemmings are following the white rabbit again without any doubts...

Just smiling about the whole BiS bs and all the discussions bout it...

[Griffey]

I looked it up and it nets you a total stat weight of 3068,17.

...according to the old stat weights. It seems ariyala hasn't updated with Dervy's 3.4 weights for smn where spell speed is slightly better than det.

And Neela I have crit/ss on my anima too, I'm just glad its paying off!

[Primm]

Just smiling about the whole BiS bs and all the discussions bout it...

Did you know it all the time because you calculated the worth of secondary stats already for yourself? Or did you always just assume or had some divine afflatus about spell speed being great for summoner?

[Primm]

...according to the old stat weights. It seems ariyala hasn't updated with Dervy's 3.4 weights for smn where spell speed is slightly better than det.

And Neela I have crit/ss on my anima too, I'm just glad its paying off!

No, not right, I changed the stat weights in Ariyala myself. It's according to the new stat weights! You can change the weight in the best in slot solver yourself

[Neela]

And Neela I have crit/ss on my anima too, I'm just glad its paying off!

*high5* <3

Did you know it all the time because you calculated the worth of secondary stats already for yourself? Or did you always just assume or had some divine afflatus about spell speed being great for summoner?

honestly? i just like to be different and having fun being an underdog - i even had a pure parry drk back in the days with midas release, who gone for crit/ss as well as the Anima questline popped up. or farming dailys/weeklys like city etc with my pure crit arcanist. for me its not being on top on any ranking lists - never was & never will be - its all about fun and not about a community-behavior.

i won't judge anyone for their builds but you can't deny that its really funny to watch that 95% of the com is just following statweights every time they change without standing their own ground and ideas like uhm... ya lemmings

[Primm]

mh on the one hand I get you, on the other hand ... the stats aren't really what makes the fun in the game. You don't go to a math class and say "maybe 2+2 is 4 but if find 5 much more fun so I will calculate with that from now on" ... it's just based on facts. And the discussion is of course about what is most effective. But if you do your job in the group well there's no reason someone else should bitch about your secondary stats. And to them you can stick it now

I just don't see any benefit in weakening your equipment on purpose :P

[Ryuko]

Hmm, the stat weights between Det and SS are sooooo slight that you're not going to see a huge change in your damage if you choose to prioritize one over the other. But! If you do want to pick the *best* gear for the setup with the most damage potential... SS is technically the way to go... Hence, the term BiS. I'm not particularly happy about SS being weighted higher now, as I am not that fond of SS as a whole... and it's not just because I like to see bigger numbers with my direct hits. :P SS can lead you to go OOM faster if you are not careful (due to the direct consequence of casting spells faster than ever). But, as long as you aren't excessively spamming Ruin 2 or having to raise a LOT of people, you should be okay. Personally, I don't have mana issues unless I have to raise people and the fight goes on way longer than it should... The other important thing to remember is that you'll only really have to worry about mana in fights that have no long breaks, like AS9 and, to some extent, AS10. In AS11, for example, there are so many long breaks that it's really not a bother, even with the occasional raise. I've yet to finish AS12 so I'm not sure what my mana will look like by the end. I've always enjoyed Crit/Det (call me old fashioned...) so I was excited to see all the Crit/Det raid gear this tier... but of course, now SS is weighted higher than Det. SE is trolling us. :P

[Neela]

mh on the one hand I get you, on the other hand ... the stats aren't really what makes the fun in the game. You don't go to a math class and say "maybe 2+2 is 4 but if find 5 much more fun so I will calculate with that from now on" ... it's just based on facts.

actually i really like you - one of the less who's openminded for different opinions

well you are right stats alone won't bring the "fun" - but f.e. the parry drk, i loved to trigger reprisal more often than the cd allows me to use it. creating this situation is like running around with an additional permanent def cd. though my tank lost dps - it's fun to play like that. i can't deny that there is a lot of try and error - ya indeed more errors than success but coming up with ideas like these is actually a thing i call "fun". trying things others won't even think of.

And the discussion is of course about what is most effective. But if you do your job in the group well there's no reason someone else should bitch about your secondary stats. And to them you can stick it now

yeah talking about BiS im absolutely aware, there are more effective ways to increase dps but as long as my guild and static is fine with my way ill stick to it jupp. sometimes im a bit sad that we can't get deeper in "builds" itself, like skilltrees or stats which would rly make a difference in the end. but yeah thats not the concept of this game : /

I just don't see any benefit in weakening your equipment on purpose :P

hmm underdog feeling ;3


cheers
Neela ^^

[Nerisu]

At least it doesn't make feel so bad anymore since I was already melding sps instead of det to compensate for my high latency. I did change my anima weapon stats to crit/ss on the last minute, though.