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  1. #1491
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    So it's better to sometimes loose the aether stacks if I don't think it'll be a good time for DWT or should I be saving my festers for when it's a good time?
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    loosing aether stacks is bad in general but like Griffey said sometimes u'll miss them or the death flare cause of bad timing or mechanics. to avoid that, getting used to the individual fights/mechanics is the only way to keep them up perfectly. for fester... i can't think of a bad timing anyway... or i just didn't get the point of your question
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  3. #1493
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    Just trying to figure out when to use my aether skills like fester in a way that I don't loose my aether stacks (since they're on the 30 second timer) but have my aetherflow / tri-disaster and other abilities off cooldown and ready for when I do cast DWT. Trying to get the most dps out of it without using my abilities (like fester) too soon and having none of the cooldowns ready for when DWT is up.

    Also as far as mechanics go, should I be saving my fester then if theres an invulnerability period or something coming up since I want to not waste my DWT but if I use fester then I'm using an aether that might vanish before I can use something again.
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  4. #1494
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    actually u (generally) use fester (and other cds like painflare/bane) to get into DWT - while in trance its better to use trisaster+garudas con to extend dot-duration, than spam ruin lll (and maybe a shadowflare/miasra combo). Using Fester in DWT should just be the case if u fuck up your rotation cause of mechanics or stuff like that, other way ruin lll is your DWT go to spam-skill. After Deathflare/trance mode your dots should still be up cause of rudas con so you can use fester/painflare again.
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  5. #1495
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    (and maybe a shadowflare/miasra combo).
    I thought using Shadowflare or Miasma II was a DPS loss in DWT. I don't think either outweighs the Ruin III cast you'll be losing.
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  6. #1496
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    I actually meant saving fester to get to DWT because if I save it then I'm not using it but If I use it and have to save DWT then the aether falls off. Just trying to get an idea of how often I should be using fester.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElasmoFan View Post
    I actually meant saving fester to get to DWT because if I save it then I'm not using it but If I use it and have to save DWT then the aether falls off. Just trying to get an idea of how often I should be using fester.
    Do you mean using 3 festers to get into DWT?
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  8. #1498
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    Fester or other skills that give aether stacks. I'm basically wondering how often I should be using fester and other skill to gain aether stacks so that I'm maximizing my dps but at the same time I'm not doing it too often so that I don't have my cooldowns up when I cast DWT. I'm also wondering if I'm saving DWT for certain situations so that it's not wasted, should I also be saving my festers and other skills that give aether stacks since I might be loosing the stacks by saving DWT.
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    Ah I see. Well again it depends on the fight. Take a8s for example, after the full-metal Faust phase I use pain flare and bane to burn down the adds, fester on the alarum, then enter DWT when it's safe to burst on the boss.

    On the standard dungeon bosses personally I try to space out my Aethertrail stacks. If you blow your load and enter trance as soon as its up, you'll have about 30 seconds of spamming ruin until aetherflow is up again. I use the standard 2f1p opener, then use 3festers while maintaining dots until I can trance again.
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  10. #1500
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronove View Post
    I thought using Shadowflare or Miasma II was a DPS loss in DWT. I don't think either outweighs the Ruin III cast you'll be losing.
    you are right generally it is a loss in dwt dps that's why i said "maybe" - but sometimes it fits, if the boss adds are up or are going to be called soon. ^^
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