Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[ShinryuReishiki]

Lately I've been using that style of opener, seems to work fairly well; all of my personal bests have been after I switched openers, but that doesn't mean much honestly. I feel like the opener ends up being fairly insignificant as long as you're not doing something weird like not putting up DoTs at all.

Pre-cast SF, Swift R3 (RS + 3D), R2 (F + P), R2 (ED + DWT), R2 (AF + Pot), R2 (Rouse + Spur), R2 (Enkindle + F), B2, M, B (DF), R2 (F), SF (Contagion), ...

I put it all on a spreadsheet somewhere to compare to other openers, I think it was like ~130 potency higher than Sleigh's around the 30s mark if you were able to pre-cast SF? Could be wrong, was just something I did to pass the time at work. I'm not sure how standard our NIN's Trick Attack timing is, but with this opener, I'm able to get all DoTs, Enkindle, and DF off during Trick Attack. Being "ahead" on AF CD has been nice in some situations as well.

[Sleigh]

Lately I've been using that style of opener, seems to work fairly well; all of my personal bests have been after I switched openers, but that doesn't mean much honestly. I feel like the opener ends up being fairly insignificant as long as you're not doing something weird like not putting up DoTs at all.

Pre-cast SF, Swift R3 (RS + 3D), R2 (F + P), R2 (ED + DWT), R2 (AF + Pot), R2 (Rouse + Spur), R2 (Enkindle + F), B2, M, B (DF), R2 (F), SF (Contagion), ...

I put it all on a spreadsheet somewhere to compare to other openers, I think it was like ~130 potency higher than Sleigh's around the 30s mark if you were able to pre-cast SF? Could be wrong, was just something I did to pass the time at work. I'm not sure how standard our NIN's Trick Attack timing is, but with this opener, I'm able to get all DoTs, Enkindle, and DF off during Trick Attack. Being "ahead" on AF CD has been nice in some situations as well.

I'm not really a math guy and I'm not trying to defend the opener everyone likes to quote but if it's 130 potency higher than the opener in question, doesn't that make it less total potency since the opener everyone quotes has 2 remaining stacks (IE a 300 potency Fester ripe and ready) vs 1 stack remaining for yours? I know the opener I use literally can't do its fourth Fester until 35s in.

As you said though, SMN opener doesn't mean much really. One Deathflare or Fester crit and you're doing more than other openers that pull, it's barely worth getting into any argument over. Just as long as you work with your group's Litany and TA, at the least ensuring you hit Enkindle + 3D during TA (3D's worth more than Deathflare + Fester put together when Contagioned, after all).

[alphamax112]

Question : If we put 3D under RS+Pot+TA+BL but we Contagion when all of those buff is over. Which DoTs does the ACT count after Contagion? Buffed ones or unbuffed ones?
I heard Bard's DoTs extension use unbuffed ones when they're extended outside of buffs window.

[Sunako]

I'm not sure how standard our NIN's Trick Attack timing is, but with this opener, I'm able to get all DoTs, Enkindle, and DF off during Trick Attack.

Ninjas trick attack should be after 5th global if I remember right. It also depends. Some ninjas want use it instantly. You can sync 3d with Trick attack whole fight since both have 60sec cd.