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    ilmynasa's Avatar
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    Garland DB has the skill data mines out..... with the trans it didn't say it'll consume stacks, and since the CD is every 30s (instead of 60s with aetherflow), with 15s duration, I believe you CAN use aetherflow, aetherflow skills during trans, and on top of that, the 3 bahamut stacks will stay so you'd be aiming to trans every 30s for 15s (50% of the fight).

    And ruin3's potency is 120 according to the DB.

    Oh god I forsee smn nerf coming 3.05.....
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    Ardan Lauriers
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilmynasa View Post
    Garland DB has the skill data mines out..... with the trans it didn't say it'll consume stacks, and since the CD is every 30s (instead of 60s with aetherflow), with 15s duration, I believe you CAN use aetherflow, aetherflow skills during trans, and on top of that, the 3 bahamut stacks will stay so you'd be aiming to trans every 30s for 15s (50% of the fight).

    And ruin3's potency is 120 according to the DB.

    Oh god I forsee smn nerf coming 3.05.....
    Garland DB is now down, due to a request from Yoshi-P.
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    Adreius Niluez
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilmynasa View Post
    Garland DB has the skill data mines out..... with the trans it didn't say it'll consume stacks, and since the CD is every 30s (instead of 60s with aetherflow), with 15s duration, I believe you CAN use aetherflow, aetherflow skills during trans, and on top of that, the 3 bahamut stacks will stay so you'd be aiming to trans every 30s for 15s (50% of the fight).

    And ruin3's potency is 120 according to the DB.

    Oh god I forsee smn nerf coming 3.05.....
    Doing so would require holding onto the last aetherdam stack to refresh the duration of the bahamut stacks while you're in dread trance. SMN opener just got super loaded, and added real play to the class in between aetherflow cds
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    Divine Gate
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilmynasa View Post
    Garland DB has the skill data mines out..... with the trans it didn't say it'll consume stacks, and since the CD is every 30s (instead of 60s with aetherflow), with 15s duration, I believe you CAN use aetherflow, aetherflow skills during trans, and on top of that, the 3 bahamut stacks will stay so you'd be aiming to trans every 30s for 15s (50% of the fight).

    And ruin3's potency is 120 according to the DB.

    Oh god I forsee smn nerf coming 3.05.....
    Yeah, but since Attunement is still tied to Aetherflow (3 Stacks @ 60s to reach Trance) you are limited outside of the opener to 1 Dreadwyrm Trance per Aetherflow.

    So it looks like Death Flare will be a part of the normal rotation (used just before the Trance falls off)

    There is a very small window for Ruin III usage

    3D could be timed with the use of Trance to ensure the most Ruin III uptime

    AOE - Trance -> SC SF -> Pain Flare -> 3D -> Bane -> M2 -> Death Flare -> Pain Flare (Happy Days)

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    Opener?

    RS -> POT -> B2 -> M -> B -> Fester -> (Trance probably wont effect Pets so you're probably safe to Rouse/Spur Enkindle) R2 -> Pain Flare -> R2 etc to Fester -> R2 -> Trance -> 3D -> R3 spam -> Death Flare (weaving Festers etc)
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 06-19-2015 at 04:08 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Yeah, but since Attunement is still tied to Aetherflow (3 Stacks @ 60s to reach Trance) you are limited outside of the opener to 1 Dreadwyrm Trance per Aetherflow.
    Yes, that's assuming when you exit trance, your attunement is reset to 0, by means of either deathflare consuming 3 or the trance itself consume 3.

    IF, the attunement stacks will not be consumed but rather just refreshed (like grease lighting), you can maintain a constant 3 stacks of attunement by spreading out your fester/painflares within the 60s of aetherflow CD (aka, make sure you will have another aetherflow ready within the next 30s if you use one aetherflow).
    But like I said, this is assuming you can keep the attunement stacks. Which I think kind of make sense looking at the CD for dreadwyre trance.
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    Avalen Koma
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