Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Sunako]

Can you extend your stance duration after you have 3 stacks if you keep using aetherflow in that form? if that is possible ruin 3 is doing 170 potency + 10% = 187 potency = 107 potency more than normal ruin = no point of leaving that form. Like if you need use 5 or more ruins in normal form, Deathflare is dps loss on singletarget except if boss have 1% hp.

[Romsca]

I do not know where ilmynasa got his info, but after going though his source link none of the posts there match his info regarding trance. This is the source info;

"Enkindle: cooldown reduced to 180 seconds.
Painflare: 200 potency AoE centered on the target, consumes 1 Aetherflow.
Ruin III: 170 (?) potency casted ability like Ruin. Costs 10x as much MP as Ruin.
Tri-disaster: Instant cast, 90 sec CD. Applies Bio II, Miasma, and Bio to target.
Dreadwyrm Trans: Every time you use Aetherflow, you gain a stack of Alteration (lasts 30 seconds). When you have 3 Alteration stacks, you can become TRANS BAHAMUT. While in this state, damage is increased by 10% and MP cost of Ruin III becomes half the MP cost of Ruin. (Ex. Ruin normally costs 100 MP and Ruin III costs 1000. While Trans Bahamut, Ruin III would cost 50.)
Deathflare: 400 potency instant-cast AoE on the target. Ends Dreadwyrm Trans and can only be used while it's active."

So there is some issue regarding which post is correct.

[Romsca]

So forget 3D>bane on mob packs. 3x Painflare>trance>deathflare>are they dead yet? No, aetherflow>repeat.

[ilmynasa]

sry snipping due to limitation

Isn't that what I typed (well except the name...)? O_o
I didn't word it exactly as the original thread though

I'm deleting my reply now anyways, since they removed the pictures from twitter so I think SE isn't too happy about leaking info... :/

[FreeLancer4]

Garuda is already effected by Spell Speed and Ifrit is not at all. With these changes Ifrit will be the one receiving the buff, although I'm curious if he will still retain his Blunt type skills if his are now going to be magical as well. (Foes + Blunt Resist Down = WIN?)

I suspect the changes in Ifrit's skills we may be seeing
Flaming Crush - Either expanding the AOE range or just making it a stronger single target skill. I suspect it should become a stronger single target skill for Ifrit since that is his true purpose.
Radiant Shield - No idea what they will do with this skill other than whatever they do to change it will absolutely be better than what it is currently.

Ah right you are, I guess when you've been avidly trying to avoid SpS, that fact gets overlooked.

[Akashiya]

Brace yourselves.
All the crappy BLMs will hop on the SMN train.

Just like all the doom and gloom smn jumped on the blm train in final coil?

[Havenchild]

OK So with 3.0 here we have to test a few new things:

1) Ifrits / Titans damage modifiers. (BRD- Foe / Slashing debuff (WAR/NIN) / MNK Dragon Kick
2) Pet Accuracy (Confirm if it is in fact equal to a SMNs or not)
3) The immensely long opener (lvl 60 preferably)
4) INT / SS / DET: Strongest damage modifiers and how they balance against each other for both SMN skills and Pet abilities, particularly interested in SS vs DET for DoT damage individually and overall damage done entirely, and SS + DET vs CRIT +SS vs CRIT + DET

Gonna add this to the second post as well and will edit that as we figure this out. Eventually it will be absorbed into the main post.

[Shamirah]

Det has been nerfed. Crit and Spell Speed will be king

[Dervy]

No... Determination for Auto-Attacks was nerfed. It scaled 2.3 times more than it did for Weapon Skills.

Summoners don't rely on Auto-Attacks. Determinations value will remain the same in 3.0 for Summoners. You'll be DET/SS spec'ed I'd say.

[Eardstapa]

We cannot say how anyone will spec, yet Dervy, but it is a safe assumption the focus will be Det/SS, depending on which has a larger impact. Or potentially SS to a point where the DoTs tick at once a second (If possible), then a focus on Crit/Det.