Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Havenchild]

4.0 Changes (IN TESTING): Things here will find it's way into the OP.

Coming Soon.

[Havenchild]

OK So with 3.0 here we have to test a few new things:

1) Ifrits / Titans damage modifiers. (BRD- Foe / Slashing debuff (WAR/NIN) / MNK Dragon Kick
2) Pet Accuracy (Confirm if it is in fact equal to a SMNs or not)
3) The immensely long opener (lvl 60 preferably)
4) INT / SS / DET: Strongest damage modifiers and how they balance against each other for both SMN skills and Pet abilities, particularly interested in SS vs DET for DoT damage individually and overall damage done entirely, and SS + DET vs CRIT +SS vs CRIT + DET

Gonna add this to the second post as well and will edit that as we figure this out. Eventually it will be absorbed into the main post.

[Fatshine]

OK So with 3.0 here we have to test a few new things:

1) Ifrits / Titans damage modifiers. (BRD- Foe / Slashing debuff (WAR/NIN) / MNK Dragon Kick
2) Pet Accuracy (Confirm if it is in fact equal to a SMNs or not)
3) The immensely long opener (lvl 60 preferably)
4) INT / SS / DET: Strongest damage modifiers and how they balance against each other for both SMN skills and Pet abilities, particularly interested in SS vs DET for DoT damage individually and overall damage done entirely, and SS + DET vs CRIT +SS vs CRIT + DET

Gonna add this to the second post as well and will edit that as we figure this out. Eventually it will be absorbed into the main post.

I think Ifrit will no longer be affected by Dragon Kick since all his attacks were changed from Blunt to Elemental. His AA is still slashing however so Storm's Eye and Dancing Edge will be a DPS boost still.

[OneWingedSora]

Assuming you can use AF stacks inside of DWS, wouldn't this be a good opener ?

Pre pull: Shadowflare+Spur+Rouse

Bio 2 as Tank is pulling > Miasmi > Bio > Enkindle > R2 > Fester > R2 > ED > R2 > Painflare > AF+DWS> RS+Pot > Tri-disaster > Fester > Miasmi 2 > SC > Shadowflare+Contagion > R3x2 > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare.

That way, you will get fully buffed DoTs(DWS 10% Increase + Pot + RS + Contagion).

[Havenchild]

Assuming you can use AF stacks inside of DWS, wouldn't this be a good opener ?

Pre pull: Shadowflare+Spur+Rouse

Bio 2 as Tank is pulling > Miasmi > Bio > Enkindle > R2 > Fester > R2 > Painflare > AF+DWS> RS+Pot > Tri-disaster > Fester > Miasmi 2 > SC > Shadowflare+Contagion > R3x2 > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare.

That way, you will get fully buffed DoTs(DWS 10% Increase + Pot + RS + Contagion).

You need to burn 3 Aetherflow stacks to get into DWT. So basically you would need to use ED somewhere before because the other two would be on CD.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually not worth waiting with Raging + Pot. You basically have to wait, 5-6 GCDS which is about... 5 ticks? without buffed Dots on top of Potency loss from Fester, Painflare and ED outside of Raging and Pot.

[OneWingedSora]

snip.

Oh my bad, ED is probably between Fester/painflare(Edited my OP). And I don't really understand your second statement. You will still get to use Festerx2+Deathflare with RS+Pot which would be better than using RS+Pot on Painflare+Fester+ED.

[Havenchild]

Oh my bad, ED is probably between Fester/painflare(Edited my OP). And I don't really understand your second statement. You will still get to use Festerx2+Deathflare with RS+Pot which would be better than using RS+Pot on Painflare+Fester+ED.

Well the second set of AF stacks will be buffed, but thats going to happen regardless?

Kinda like uh forgo the buffs on the initial skills pre DWT, to super buff everything else in DWT but...

Using one set of buffs here and then having the second set of buffs on the later half, will probably even out the same way. Obviously would have to be tested if its worth waiting that long. We also don't know if you can be in DWT when you use AF.

Wouldn't it be better to open with Tri-Disaster instead of applying all DoT's by themselves?

That depends on if you can better take advantage of overlapping buffs at the end of the opener.