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    Koyuki Tanaka
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    Use Ruin 3 even without DWT some time(but try to keep mana)
    Anyway, if you wipe with 50% mana, it would be better to not wipe with 10% mana, then slow down dps for regen.

    If you use Ruin 2 i hope you use auto attack too (just asking )

    Does bard use magic defense debuff ?

    Do you use food, potion, poison, saving Raging strike for Sanuwa, etc, etc
    As long as enrage is not reached, it is often better to keep buffs for DPS check phase, even if it lower the average DPS, it increase the burst during this phase.

    Also, if you think your rotation is near the perfection, maybe the parser is not correct and maybe you can't carry 3 other DPS if their roration sux
    (just a possibility)


    (I didn't try Bis Ex yet, can we kill the carapace in one row ?)
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    Last edited by Koyuki38; 07-01-2015 at 09:07 PM.

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    Player Jeckyl_Tesla's Avatar
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    Koyuki:

    Ruin III is definitely a possiblity and I'm sure I would weave it in a few spots. The main problem with Ruin III spam in Bismarck Ex is between all the Tornados and Water spouts that spawn on your face, it's best to keep it mobile as possible. Hence the Ruin II spam. And yes, I ofcourse auto attack.

    As for saving the DPS CD's for the Sanuwa, I was told that if you cannot get down the Carapace in one go, then you'll struggle on the Sanuwa, hence why everyone pops their CDs on the Carapace.

    I use food, though I wasn't using potions and poisons at the time, so naturally using artificial consumables, I could ofcourse improve my DPS in that aspect, but it's more so how my rotation during the fight itself.

    I don't think my rptation is near perfection at all, but I feel like I've stretched it to it's limits. So unless I'm doing something glaringly wrong, I can't see a huge DPS increase in doing anything differently. (Aka, Ifrit may or may not increase my DPS in that phase due to radiant shield affecting both tanks and the adds not moving in the slightest. But would that DPS increase be worth dropping the Contagion on the second untouchable add that I cannot hit?)
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    Philia Felice
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    It sounds like you're doing it mostly right. You're at the mercy of your party at this point unfortunately.

    I'd bet you anything your healers aren't DPSing at all and your tanks are in tank stance. You might want to suggest at the least one of your healers DPSes after the cleaves go out with the blue/green phase.
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    Shatotto Totto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa View Post
    Dreadworm
    someone Photoshop bahamut wings onto a worm pls
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    Adreius Niluez
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    I just wanted to ask and see if anyone noticed ACT parsing lower than normal with the last update. I don't know when it was but I went from seeing 1900 dps burst in rav ex last night to barely doing above 1400 with no changes in my opener other than the fact that I was hitting my buttons better and actually in the right order. I don't know when this update came out, I just restarted to install the rainbowmage update.
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    never trust ACT

    The only moments i reached more than 500 dps on T12 were when i did shit with my rotation while not knowing what to do with my keyboard and playing freestyle just by reseting dots in emergency + fillers and GCD waste.

    Each time i did perfect opener, perfect clipping, using miasme 2 + contagion only, using ruin 2 + aa when possible, i barely go over 400...
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    i don't see why you should kill carapace in 1 go

    Edit : I tried bismark today again and we were able to kill carapace without me using raging strike, potion, etc
    We also killed dragon on P2, but we didn't do it each time

    p3 killed us, but i have no clue how
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    Last edited by Koyuki38; 07-03-2015 at 05:13 AM.

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    @Jeckyl

    Definitely get the i170 weapon. It will be fine until you get the Hive drop.
    Only use Ifrit for Bismark. It's not worth it just to Contagion your dots on the dragons and since pets dont get the debuff you can just leave it on whatever one.
    (Also I dont think Garuda can hurt the carapace from a distance.)

    Sounds like you have the rest down pretty good.
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    Player Jeckyl_Tesla's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    @Jeckyl

    Definitely get the i170 weapon. It will be fine until you get the Hive drop.
    Only use Ifrit for Bismark. It's not worth it just to Contagion your dots on the dragons and since pets dont get the debuff you can just leave it on whatever one.
    (Also I dont think Garuda can hurt the carapace from a distance.)

    Sounds like you have the rest down pretty good.
    Alright, I'll keep that in mind.

    You sure having contagion out for Tridisastering the dots on the other add wouldn't be a DPS increase?

    (I'd only have Garuda out for the double Dragon adds, I'd switch back to Ifrit for P3 again)
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla View Post
    Alright, I'll keep that in mind.

    You sure having contagion out for Tridisastering the dots on the other add wouldn't be a DPS increase?

    (I'd only have Garuda out for the double Dragon adds, I'd switch back to Ifrit for P3 again)
    I would suggest it may be a dps increase, however iirc you don't even have tri disaster up for that phase for 30 seconds (if assuming you tridisastered the carapace, which I don't see how you can do damage to it unless you did). That phase lasts at most 130 seconds, so if you have 100 seconds you may have time to use it twice, while losing all the AA damage from ifrit. I think I'll pass on that, for 30 seconds of more dots (if that, they should be dying much faster).

    Furthermore, the mana cost of summoning means unless your bard is playing Ballad you will likely see a higher dps increase casting more Ruin II and autoattacking or throwing some nonDT Ruin III.

    Just hope you're lucky with choosing which one to dot.
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