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    MariaNyan's Avatar
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    Maria Nyan
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by frostfirefawcett View Post
    Here's the opener I am using in case it was hard to tell from the video.

    http://ffxivrotations.com/a0n

    Has 8 Ruin IIIs, but ED instead of a Painflare to allow for more Ruin 3 spamming.
    Mind to compare openers? I would like to see your POV on some things.



    1. Trickattack
    Should be start at the 4th GCD, does your swiftcast ruin III hit it too early?
    I have a rly tough time to get my Skills in, my TriD hits normally the last second of Trickattack, my Pot is timed that way.
    I lately went down on SS so i might need to put Pot after Fester.

    2. Pot-timing
    Your skills under Pot are 2x Ruin II, 2x Ruin III, Painflare/ED, Fester, Miasma II, TriD. Potentially another Ruin III?
    My Skills under Pot are 2x Ruin II, 3x Ruin III, Painflare, 2x Fester, Miasma II, TriD.
    Difference: 1x Ruin III, 1x Fester.

    3. Raging Strikes
    Your skills under Raging Strikes are Painflare, 2x Fester, 2x Ruin II, Miasma II, TriD, 5x Ruin III, Deathflare.
    My Skills under Raging Strikes are 2x Ruin II, Painflare, 2x Fester, Miasma II, TriD, 6x Ruin III, Deathflare.
    Your Ragingstrikes actually last longer than DWT, so you get additional (prob Ruin III without DWT).

    Video:
    https://youtu.be/47K6TcGa3zM

    A few notes:
    Pot-timing lines up with TA.
    RS lines up with DWT.
    Enkindle lines up with RS in terms of CD.
    Aetherflow, Swiftcast, TriD and Contagion linees up.
    Extremly tight Opener, if you are 1s to late/early on Pot or RS you miss alot.


    Probably missed the earlier Aetherflow Timing and maybe some other Stuff, mind to talk about it?

    Cheers,
    Maria
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    Last edited by MariaNyan; 09-15-2016 at 10:16 PM.

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    frostfirefawcett's Avatar
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    Namine F'
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    Hmm, I do get one Ruin III under Raging Strikes after that Deathflare, so abilities hit under Raging are basically the same in both openers. My first Ruin III is under TA, yes. So I guess the only differences are:

    1- Earlier AF timing in my opener.
    2- Your pot has one extra Ruin III and Fester under it.
    3- My opener has one extra Ruin III in it.
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MariaNyan View Post
    Mind to compare openers? I would like to see your POV on some things.




    Video:
    https://youtu.be/47K6TcGa3zM
    Just curious: Is either of these higher potency than the 2F1P opener?
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    frostfirefawcett's Avatar
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    Namine F'
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Possible BiS

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/VTXT

    Probably going to take ages for me given my luck in drops '-' 0 drops so far up until A12S.
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    Maria Nyan
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Not the best "on paper" but just following my intuition. Statweight for SS should be outdated and i personally don't trust DEt that much. Well nothing "scientific" though, that's what i go for.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/W2HG
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    Seirenes Seabringer
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    Faerie
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    Just got back into the game after taking a break for a couple months. I'm noticing people sharing different openers so is there still an optimal / cookie cutter opener that people work off of and that I could use at first since I'm getting back into playing as SMN? Also what's the timing with using fester / aether using abilities after the opener so that I'm getting it out as much as I can but I'm also not using it too early and not having to use DWT before my cooldowns are ready?
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    Alpha Bongo
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    Ehhhh not really. Easy opener is apply dots, fester death flare fester, then hit RS and DWT, tri disaster+contagion, spam ruin 3 and then death flare. The rest is all about using DWT at the optimal time, which differs from fight to fight. You also want to co ordinate with your team mates, with my group I wait until Trick Attack and Battle Litany are up before I throw Tri Disaster up.

    Remember DWT is your burst, so use it when you can make the most of it. The worst feeling when the boss becomes invulnerable and you waste a death flare... Nidogg ex is a good example, he flies off after about 30 seconds at the beginning.

    Moral of the story is use the burst rotation when you have a chance, and keep your dots up.
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    ElasmoFan's Avatar
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    Seirenes Seabringer
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    So it's better to sometimes loose the aether stacks if I don't think it'll be a good time for DWT or should I be saving my festers for when it's a good time?
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    loosing aether stacks is bad in general but like Griffey said sometimes u'll miss them or the death flare cause of bad timing or mechanics. to avoid that, getting used to the individual fights/mechanics is the only way to keep them up perfectly. for fester... i can't think of a bad timing anyway... or i just didn't get the point of your question
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    Seirenes Seabringer
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    Just trying to figure out when to use my aether skills like fester in a way that I don't loose my aether stacks (since they're on the 30 second timer) but have my aetherflow / tri-disaster and other abilities off cooldown and ready for when I do cast DWT. Trying to get the most dps out of it without using my abilities (like fester) too soon and having none of the cooldowns ready for when DWT is up.

    Also as far as mechanics go, should I be saving my fester then if theres an invulnerability period or something coming up since I want to not waste my DWT but if I use fester then I'm using an aether that might vanish before I can use something again.
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