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    Quote Originally Posted by frostfirefawcett View Post
    Here's a 2173 DPS video I had months ago w/ a pure crit build:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xuBYHEmQfs
    Nidhogg SSS has 276.000 HP, comparable to a A6S Dummy.
    A8S SSS has 305.760 HP.

    Pot and Buff-food will add about 100dps, given the short timespan of 2min even up to 150dps.
    Notice i'm talking about substained dps, which doesn't seem to be the case, in the a8s video i had aetherstacks left and mana from not using ruin III.

    Nonetheless still impressive performance, the opener is slightly different and the miasma II+contagion wasn't used, gonna analyze it later.
    I will see if i can do a comparable video with food and pot on niddhogg ex later on, thanks for sharing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaNyan View Post
    Nidhogg SSS has 276.000 HP, comparable to a A6S Dummy.
    A8S SSS has 305.760 HP.

    Pot and Buff-food will add about 100dps, given the short timespan of 2min even up to 150dps.
    Notice i'm talking about substained dps, which doesn't seem to be the case, in the a8s video i had aetherstacks left and mana from not using ruin III.

    Nonetheless still impressive performance, the opener is slightly different and the miasma II+contagion wasn't used, gonna analyze it later.
    I will see if i can do a comparable video with food and pot on niddhogg ex later on, thanks for sharing!
    Fairly positive food+pot won't add that much, and I didn't have the Midan book either so there's that. The whole point of the video was to show off the crit build which has around 1224 crit iirc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostfirefawcett View Post
    Here's a 2173 DPS video I had months ago w/ a pure crit build:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xuBYHEmQfs
    Not sure if the lower HP Nidhogg SSS with food and pot is equivalent to what someone did on A8S SSS without food or pot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Not sure if the lower HP Nidhogg SSS with food and pot is equivalent to what someone did on A8S SSS without food or pot.
    Alright, here's an A8S video @ 2080 DPS, even made a few mistakes and clipped alot here. Also i240 book used instead of the i245 Midan one displayed in Maria's video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-HsqCtjoJc
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    Last edited by frostfirefawcett; 09-06-2016 at 05:57 PM.
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    Should Dreadwyrm trance be held until Tri-disaster is up? I've been picking up SMN again and practicing on a dummy and I notice that a lot of times I'll get 3 aethertrail stacks 20 - 25 seconds before tri-disaster is back up, is this normal? If so, should I hold onto Dreadwyrm trance until I can tri-disaster and contagion during it, or just say fuck it and immediately go for the ruin 3 splam and use tri-disaster contagion after?
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    so how do u reach trance usually? if you use your stacks just for fester the tri-disaster cd should be nearly done... if you go for the raw shooting out all stacks without break (fester, painflare, energydrain) it's hard to keep a flowing rotation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    so how do u reach trance usually? if you use your stacks just for fester the tri-disaster cd should be nearly done... if you go for the raw shooting out all stacks without break (fester, painflare, energydrain) it's hard to keep a flowing rotation...
    With 3 stacks of aetherflow, and Aetherflow ready to be used immeadiately again, by the time I can Dreadwyrm for the second time there's still 25 seconds left until tri-disaster is up.

    So I'll do the 2F1P opener, once I have the 3rd aethertrail stack I use Aetherflow again to have 3 stacks ready, activate Dreadwyrm, use tri-disaster after the first ruin 3 cast. I use one fester during dreadwyrm to get it within raging strikes, then I do the rest of the rotation normally (only using fester on single target, never blowing all of my stacks just to get to Dreadwyrm right away) and by the time I get to the second Dreadwyrm activation, tri-disaster is still 25 seconds or so until it's ready.
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    So, I have been discussing this with a few friends, and was wondering if anyone else came across this.

    On A8S, bane'd DoTs on Swindler don't snapshot from the original source ? Looking at these two logs:

    https://www.fflogs.com/reports/KNfbn...ents&target=62

    https://www.fflogs.com/reports/KNfbn...ents&target=65

    The average Bio 2 tick for example, is lower on Swindler, even though it was bane'd from Blaster & @2:55, those DoTs were bane'd from Vortexer yet they are ticking consistently lower than they should.
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    Last edited by frostfirefawcett; 09-20-2016 at 07:54 PM.
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    There are alot of circumstances in fight that normally decides whether or not its beneficial to go DWT early or not.
    For Management purposes as well as other synergy like trickattack i personally tend to keep swiftcast, DWT, Aetherflow and tridisaster together, it locks your rotation but is way more easier to handle.
    The other more dps-efficient way to handle it is to time your DWT so you can use Tri-disaster at the end of DWT together with deathflare.

    In the end it doesn't really matter as long as you keep Aetherflow under CD, clipping dot here and there normally makes the small differences that ppl need to get used to in order to get to the very high percentages.
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    Here's the opener I am using in case it was hard to tell from the video.

    http://ffxivrotations.com/a0n

    Has 8 Ruin IIIs, but ED instead of a Painflare to allow for more Ruin 3 spamming.
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