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    Player
    Leukka's Avatar
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    Orrah'to Leukka
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    Cactuar
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    Carpenter Lv 90
    Shoot for 540 to 550 so you can be future-proofed for ex primals
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    Koyuki38's Avatar
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    Koyuki Tanaka
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Hey,

    what is the best value of Spell Speed we can reach if we do a build :
    Crit and SS where crit is maxed with materia each time it's possible (and the rest with SS matéria)
    Crit and SS where SS is maxed with matéria each time it's possible (and the rest with Crit matéria)
    ?
    (using 230 lore and raid equipement)

    I'd like to check if there is a possibility to cast more that 6x ruin 3 during DWT.
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    ShinryuReishiki's Avatar
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    Shinryu Reishiki
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    Ultros
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Koyuki38 View Post
    I'd like to check if there is a possibility to cast more that 6x ruin 3 during DWT.
    6 is the most we can manage with current gear. Have managed 7 with the Arrow, though...
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    Brinzy's Avatar
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    Thabo Marandu
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    So to players that play both SMN and BLM endgame, do you just focus on gearing for one and hope the other one works out just fine? If so, which one do you focus on?
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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lost Tales
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    ^
    If you play smn it's crit>det>ss

    if you play blm it's SS>crit>det

    I have low ish 680 or so ss on my smn because I have 1,1k crit instead which is better for my dot snapshoting + Df etc etc

    If I wanted to switch to my blm I'd have awful SS and mixed up stats, so I will never play my blm.
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    Brinzy's Avatar
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    Thabo Marandu
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    Siren
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    ^
    If you play smn it's crit>det>ss

    if you play blm it's SS>crit>det

    I have low ish 680 or so ss on my smn because I have 1,1k crit instead which is better for my dot snapshoting + Df etc etc

    If I wanted to switch to my blm I'd have awful SS and mixed up stats, so I will never play my blm.
    Yeah, that's the thing... I really want to play both, but the secondary stats are different enough to the point where I don't want to spend a lot of gil re-melding. I guess technically, going SMN for crit gear is better than going BLM for SS, but it's a really hard decision. I find them both fun, too... and my BLM just hit 58.
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    MariaNyan's Avatar
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    Maria Nyan
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Brinzy View Post
    Yeah, that's the thing... I really want to play both, but the secondary stats are different enough to the point where I don't want to spend a lot of gil re-melding. I guess technically, going SMN for crit gear is better than going BLM for SS, but it's a really hard decision. I find them both fun, too... and my BLM just hit 58.
    Then just go: CRIT>SS>DET
    Determination is only slightly better than spellspeed, however for a blm that would be one of the two possible BIS, while not hurting SMN so much.
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    Player
    Brinzy's Avatar
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    Thabo Marandu
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    Siren
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Oh you're right, I didn't really notice the marginal difference between DET and SS for SMN. Ok, that makes it a lot easier.
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    IceSpear's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Ice Spear
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    I have a question (sorry if this is explained in the first post I didn't see) has summoner changed in anyway since 3.2? Are the openers on the first page still good do you still hold onto stacks for DWT and if you how long do you hold them for?
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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lost Tales
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by IceSpear View Post
    I have a question (sorry if this is explained in the first post I didn't see) has summoner changed in anyway since 3.2? Are the openers on the first page still good do you still hold onto stacks for DWT and if you how long do you hold them for?
    They are still good, I use 2 F 1 PF but if i need to get into dwt as fast as possible it's 1 f 1 pf 1 ed , there is certain times will you will want to get inside dwt quicker (nin buff, drg crit buff etc) if no buffs are rolling you can do 2 fester 1 pf which is a stronger but takes a few seconds to ramp up.
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