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  1. #1331
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    IrealiTY's Avatar
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    Saeris Illyan
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Sounds like a potency loss to me.
    Check this spreadsheet for some opener comparison (still based on 3.15 - but atm I doubt we can change much without stacking tons of spell speed)
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  2. #1332
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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    What to meld in gear capped on crit, if you only use IV's?
    I'd say determination, but looking on the (3.0) stat weights and looking on the materia..
    It's
    6 det * 0,147 AP/det = 0,882 AP
    and
    9 ss * 0,119 AP/ss = 1,071 AP.

    So I guess it's better to meld 9 ss in the midian earrings (i220)?
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  3. #1333
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    Bad Nyanners
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    a potless opener ive been using (due to being poor) is
    precast shadowflare, rouse and spur
    bio2, miasma, bio (raging fester)
    ruin2 (painflare energy drain)
    miasma2( af, swiftcast, dw trance)
    swift ruin3 (tridisaster enkindle)
    r3 spam, clip gcd to fester before raging runs out
    r2 deathflare if time allows, otherwise clip gcd after r3 to deathflare.
    there are a lot of problems with this opener, such as deathflare not being in rs, and a fair amount gcd clipping. will probabaly change my opener after reading up on what others do here
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  4. #1334
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    Stroking's Avatar
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    Yor Lyn
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    New to summoner here, should I ever be aiming for 2 festers during DWT?
    For DWT I've been doing Miasma2/Ruin 2 > SC+DWT > Ruin3 > AF+Tri-disaster > Ruin3 x4 (contagion) > Fester+Deathflare
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  5. #1335
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    Havenchild's Avatar
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    Avalen Koma
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stroking View Post
    New to summoner here, should I ever be aiming for 2 festers during DWT?
    For DWT I've been doing Miasma2/Ruin 2 > SC+DWT > Ruin3 > AF+Tri-disaster > Ruin3 x4 (contagion) > Fester+Deathflare
    For the opener DWT, you will likely only ever be able to do 1 Fester without losing potency in between. However, for every DWT afterwards, Yes, you do want two Festers under DWT.

    I may be alone on this opinion but I do not like using AF under DWT outside of the one in the opener either.
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  6. #1336
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    For the opener DWT, you will likely only ever be able to do 1 Fester without losing potency in between. However, for every DWT afterwards, Yes, you do want two Festers under DWT.

    I may be alone on this opinion but I do not like using AF under DWT outside of the one in the opener either.
    Since 2p1f is at least 2-3 GCDs faster, I mostly use that one (and 2f in DWT then).. at least when paired with DRG (BL) or NIN (TA).
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  7. #1337
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    Hardpony's Avatar
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    Character
    Edea Northenlight
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    Anyone know Bis melding materia 5 for 230 smn gear? all where possible determination and where not make det, crit chance? or any req?
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  8. #1338
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    Bad Nyanners
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    crit over det if you can
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  9. #1339
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    Edea Northenlight
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    Omega
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    Bard Lv 80
    matters, there is no problem. as I remember determination the Summoner is more important than crit. so I can not choose the best strategy to meld. understand it everywhere where you want crits to put them in. where not,a determination? serach new actual stats for 3.0-3.2.

    Weapon Damage: 9.128
    Intelligence: 1
    Critical Hit Rate: 0.181 (Garuda), 0.182 (Ifrit)
    Determination: 0.159
    Spell Speed: 0.138 (Garuda), 0.135 (Ifrit)

    hmm. crit better major stat now. actualy now i think every where possible meld crit and where no - determination.
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    Last edited by Hardpony; 03-05-2016 at 03:14 AM.

  10. #1340
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hardpony View Post
    matters, there is no problem. as I remember determination the Summoner is more important than crit. so I can not choose the best strategy to meld. understand it everywhere where you want crits to put them in. where not,a determination? serach new actual stats for 3.0-3.2.

    Weapon Damage: 9.128
    Intelligence: 1
    Critical Hit Rate: 0.181 (Garuda), 0.182 (Ifrit)
    Determination: 0.159
    Spell Speed: 0.138 (Garuda), 0.135 (Ifrit)

    hmm. crit better major stat now. actualy now i think every where possible meld crit and where no - determination.
    As I said, if you're not using V's then SS > DET, because 9*0.138 > 6*0,159.
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