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    audi5000's Avatar
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    Bad Nyanners
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    i wonder if itll be worth casting a second fester inside dw trance now.. you can get one with mininal clipping by doing r2 (dwt td) r3 spam (swift) r3 (fester deathflare), but fitting another fester in there would require you to either use r2/miasma 2 (definitely not worth) or clip gcd (maybe??)
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by audi5000 View Post
    i wonder if itll be worth casting a second fester inside dw trance now.. you can get one with mininal clipping by doing r2 (dwt td) r3 spam (swift) r3 (fester deathflare), but fitting another fester in there would require you to either use r2/miasma 2 (definitely not worth) or clip gcd (maybe??)
    You could try doing Miasma II before doing DWT+TD. Only if you use Contagion, though. That way instead of a 80 potency r2 you get a 120 potency miasma II. I don't really know about the whole rotation inside of DWT now. using R2 instead of R3 will feel like a real loss for fitting those Festers in there, though still a mathematical potency gain since 80+300 > 200...

    If you're gonna use Swiftcast without using R2 prior you're gonna be clipping your GCD anyways.
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    Libbie Dose
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    Quote Originally Posted by audi5000 View Post
    i wonder if itll be worth casting a second fester inside dw trance now.. you can get one with mininal clipping by doing r2 (dwt td) r3 spam (swift) r3 (fester deathflare), but fitting another fester in there would require you to either use r2/miasma 2 (definitely not worth) or clip gcd (maybe??)
    R2/M2 > Swiftcast > DWT
    R3 > TriD > Fester
    R3 x4
    R2 > Fester > Deathflare

    Gets 5 Ruin IIIs, Tri-Disaster, and 2 Festers.

    I couldn't figure out a way to get 6 Ruin IIIs + TriD + Deathflare without stacking some serious spell speed.
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    Last edited by Libbie; 02-20-2016 at 08:41 AM.

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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libbie View Post
    R2/M2 > Swiftcast > DWT
    R3 > TriD > Fester
    MIND BLOWN
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    I've been working on the "new" opener for 3.2, and this is what I've come up with. I've actually been using this for a while, but before the change it was roughly the same as most other openers. After 3.2, it will be significantly higher because it gets out 6 Ruin IIIs.

    (Pre-cast) Shadowflare
    (Pre-cast) Bio II
    Miasma
    Bio > Potion > Fester
    Ruin III
    Ruin II > Rouse > Spur
    Ruin II > Enkindle > Raging Strikes
    Ruin II > Painflare > Fester
    Miasma II > Swiftcast > DWT
    Ruin III > Tri-Disaster > Aetherflow
    Ruin III x4 (Contagion)
    Ruin II > Fester > Deathflare
    Shadowflare

    Here's the potency math behind this opener.
    Here's a video demonstrating the opener.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Given that potency hike for Ruin III I'm wondering if it might make sense to start spamming it even outside of DT, MP and OGCDs allowing.
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    Avalen Koma
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    I'm curious as to how much closer we are to BLM in ST environments with this adjustment. The difference before was quite big (100-150+ DPS). With this, it's official that Miasma II should never be used under DWT in any scenario.
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    Divine Gate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    I'm curious as to how much closer we are to BLM in ST environments with this adjustment. The difference before was quite big (100-150+ DPS). With this, it's official that Miasma II should never be used under DWT in any scenario.
    So glad for this change. I'm sure I wasn't the only one confused as to why SCH got Broil (200 Potency) and SMN got R3 (120 Potency) as the DPS class. It was definitely needed as well with QoL changes to BLM which will improve it's ST even more over SMN.
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    Writ Mo'gi
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    A little off topic maybe? But did anyone else notice that not only are we getting Titan and Garuda minions but also Leviathan this patch? I know they promised us glamour and I do want them to take their time to get it right and implement it as best they can for sure! But part of me also doesn't know how to feel knowing they spent time to create a model and animations (obviously not a complete set) for a "minion" style Leviathan when we haven't any idea what the Egi might look like :<
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    Avalen Koma
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdKeyOfSun View Post
    A little off topic maybe? But did anyone else notice that not only are we getting Titan and Garuda minions but also Leviathan this patch? I know they promised us glamour and I do want them to take their time to get it right and implement it as best they can for sure! But part of me also doesn't know how to feel knowing they spent time to create a model and animations (obviously not a complete set) for a "minion" style Leviathan when we haven't any idea what the Egi might look like :<
    Well I would imagine most of these minions, were really for use with Lord of Vermillion(potentially already planned as well) and now with Leviathan, they pretty much have confirmed they intend on doing the other primals as well.
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