Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Havenchild]

I needed a help on SMN, it's more like a 'how to setup the cross-bar for PS4 controller'. Is there anyone here who plays on the Controller? Could you send photos/images of the cross-bar, please? I still haven't figured out a good 'positioning' for the Skills on the cross-bar.

I use a combination of both keyboard and controller but you mostly all my skills are on controller.



On another hotbar, I have the exact same setup except, I change Shadowflare with Ressurection and Obey with X-Potion of Intelligence.
Bane and Painflare are the only two skills I use with a keyboard input but those along side miasma II can easily be added to the other side of extended keys.

Extended Hotkeys -> Holding both L2 and R2 in any order.


I mostly focus both my Extended Keys into one set of 8 keys for simplicity but you have enough room for another setup of 8 additional keys for a total count of 16 additional hotkeys via extended setup.

[audi5000]

i haven't really seen it mentioned in this thread yet but: how yall feel about using a contagioned miasma ii to weave stuff in dw trance instead of a ruin ii?

i never see it talked about, is it taboo or a given?

[OneWingedSora]

i haven't really seen it mentioned in this thread yet but: how yall feel about using a contagioned miasma ii to weave stuff in dw trance instead of a ruin ii?

i never see it talked about, is it taboo or a given?

I do that, yep. DWT > Fester > Miasma 2 > Tri-D > Ruin 3 spam > Ruin 2 > Fester > Deathflare.

[Havenchild]

i haven't really seen it mentioned in this thread yet but: how yall feel about using a contagioned miasma ii to weave stuff in dw trance instead of a ruin ii?

i never see it talked about, is it taboo or a given?

You can certainly do it, however, using Miasma II in DWT is a DPS loss versus using it outside of DWT first. You would be doing this out of a convenience but not helping giving you an optimal performance.

EX. Ruin II -> DWT > Fester > Miasma 2 > Tri-D > Ruin 3 spam > Ruin 2 > Fester > Deathflare.
You have replaced a Ruin III (120 potency) for Miasma II (120+ potency). Miasma II + Contagion vs a Ruin III is a DPS gain under DWT, however...

EX. Miasma II -> DWT > Fester > Ruin III > Tri-D > Ruin 3 spam > Ruin 2 > Fester > Deathflare.
At most you have shifted the GCD very slightly but you are still doing the same skills within the same time. However doing it this way, Miasma II +Contagion (120+ potency) is now replacing a Ruin II (80 potency) thus leading to a higher gain overall.

[Sleigh]

You can certainly do it, however, using Miasma II in DWT is a DPS loss versus using it outside of DWT first. You would be doing this out of a convenience but not helping giving you an optimal performance.

EX. Ruin II -> DWT > Fester > Miasma 2 > Tri-D > Ruin 3 spam > Ruin 2 > Fester > Deathflare.
You have replaced a Ruin III (120 potency) for Miasma II (120+ potency). Miasma II + Contagion vs a Ruin III is a DPS gain under DWT, however...

EX. Miasma II -> DWT > Fester > Ruin III > Tri-D > Ruin 3 spam > Ruin 2 > Fester > Deathflare.
At most you have shifted the GCD very slightly but you are still doing the same skills within the same time. However doing it this way, Miasma II +Contagion (120+ potency) is now replacing a Ruin II (80 potency) thus leading to a higher gain overall.

That's a good point. That said, in most openers, you have a bunch of crap to put up in the initial DWT and I think it's not good to use it prior to DWT in your first 15s~ since that will be a R2 in DWT anyway.

great guide i didn't see any mention that fester got changed now hits more than 3 mobs

You must mean Bane, Fester is and always has been a single target hit.

[Havenchild]

That's a good point. That said, in most openers, you have a bunch of crap to put up in the initial DWT and I think it's not good to use it prior to DWT in your first 15s~ since that will be a R2 in DWT anyway.

Well in the opener, depending on how you do it, you can still sub out of a Ruin II, before DWT for a Miasma II assuming you use a Ruin II after Raging Strikes but before DWT. Also assuming mechanics permit you to be that close at this time. At that point we wouldn't be talking about substitution of a Ruin III under DWT but rather a direct comparison of Potency from a Ruin II outside that DWT vs a Miasma II + Contagion outside of DWT which is still a net gain to my knowledge as long as your Contagion catches it.

[Ezikiel]

great guide i didn't see any mention that fester got changed now hits more than 3 mobs

[Darkstride]

great guide i didn't see any mention that fester got changed now hits more than 3 mobs

Because it didn't lol. Bane was changed, however ;-)

[KroLeXz]

from extensive testing, and this might just be my latency - miasma II has a strange animation lock swiftcast ruin 3 for example.

[audi5000]

i personally havent had any problems with doubleweaving while using miasma ii.
what do smns do for handling jagds in a4? ive been spending 2 aetherflow stacks on it - one to fester, and one to bane dots onto the leg while im feeding it. but it throws off raging / dwt timing a bit since i also wanna save damage cooldowns for the leg itself. any advice?