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    Auri and Ishgard, can we truly be allies?

    One thing has been lingering on my mind since the new race Au\\\\'Ra was announced.

    The Au\\\\'Ra are theoretically part Dravanian. With that, the first concern of mine is where does the race originate from. With essentially all of old Coerthas opening up for us, I would expect it to be either Ishgard city proper, or Dravania. Both of these bring up some major concerns.

    Being from dravania, that would imply this race has been around amongst dragons, possibly a lower class amongst dragon kind. Dragons don\\\\'t need clothes, so this would explain their ratty garb, being the only ones in their society that needs it. The other option is ishgard proper. Have a whole host of issues if this is the case. Ishgardians HATE dragons, to the point they label even suspected sympathizers as heretics and want blood. And that is just for people who like dragons.
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    Imagine if you were actually part dragon! At worst, they would be lowest low class; at best, mud-in-the-dirt class among ishgardian society. This would definitely explain their starter clothes.
    This of course is all regarding NPCs, and where they might be in the new expansion. Nevermind player characters. As a character who has become a friend and hero to their city, will Ishgard still revere me if I undergo a race change? Say I am just starting out. Would they so much as last me climb the observatory before skewering me on sight? At that point I am as much an outsider as I am draconic.

    I am just really interested in how this new race will integrate themselves with the rest of Eorzea. Of course, if it turns out Au\\'Ra are not Dravanian, disregard everything I already said and mark me a fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delvish View Post
    The Au\\\\'Ra are theoretically part Dravanian.
    Nothing so far has indicated that, and without that your complaints mostly fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Nothing so far has indicated that, and without that your complaints mostly fail.
    well that was a little rude of you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Nothing so far has indicated that, and without that your complaints mostly fail.
    It doesn't really matter if the Au'Ra actually are part Dravanian though. Ishgardian society is anti-dragon to the point that they hunt down and kill anything that even resembles a dragon. It's very much a cultural witch-hunt in their society. The Au'Ra having horns and scales will instantly cause the Ishgardians to see them as being in league with Dravania. Remember Aymeric and Lucia asking you to keep quiet about speaking to Midgardsormr as they knew it would cause the Holy See to regard you with suspicion? For me personally this is why Yugiri's reveal was handled poorly as it would make no sense for Ishgard not to grow suspicious of her once she had revealed her true nature.

    For the record though we have had multiple clues already that the Au'Ra are indeed half Dravanian; the most obvious being the story of Shiva sleeping with a dragon at the same time we're introduced to a half-draconic race. Whilst it has still not been outright confirmed, saying 'nothing so far has indicated that' is completely false.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    It doesn't really matter if the Au'Ra actually are part Dravanian though. Ishgardian society is anti-dragon to the point that they hunt down and kill anything that even resembles a dragon. It's very much a cultural witch-hunt in their society. The Au'Ra having horns and scales will instantly cause the Ishgardians to see them as being in league with Dravania. Remember Aymeric and Lucia asking you to keep quiet about speaking to Midgardsormr as they knew it would cause the Holy See to regard you with suspicion? For me personally this is why Yugiri's reveal was handled poorly as it would make no sense for Ishgard not to grow suspicious of her once she had revealed her true nature.
    I'm with Alberel on this part. Even if Au Ra have nothing to do with Dravania and aren't even dragon related, but demonic or derived from some other reptilian race, Ishgardians are still going to regard anything with horns and scales as highly suspect at the very least, and more likely with open hostility. These are people who take any hint of even possible dravainian contact as cause to throw people off cliffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Remember Aymeric and Lucia asking you to keep quiet about speaking to Midgardsormr as they knew it would cause the Holy See to regard you with suspicion?.
    Adding that coment you said is wrong too. Was not those 2 characters that told us to keep quiet. It was Minfilia who said we have to be keep quiet about our talk to Midgar to Lucia and Aymeric. The didnt told us to shus, Minfilia told us to shus the situation from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Nothing so far has indicated that, and without that your complaints mostly fail.
    Not complaints, more so speculation. I thought I read somewhere that "Au'Ra" was a dravanian word so there is that, but again, all theory-craft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme View Post
    well that was a little rude of you
    I don't get how that would be rude. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Delvish View Post
    Not complaints, more so speculation. I thought I read somewhere that "Au'Ra" was a dravanian word so there is that, but again, all theory-craft.
    Maybe "complaint" was the wrong word. Anyway, yeah. We have basically no information about the Au Ra at this point. We know that they have draconian features, but that doesn't actually mean they have to be descended from dragons. I mean, I'm willing to assume with everyone else that they probably are, way back down the line, but that doesn't tell us which line of dragons they would even descend from. If from the Dravanians, they would have had to split before the Dragonsong War even started. If from the Meracydians, they would have had to split before the Allagans captured them (unless I'm misremembering and there are Meracydians alive now). That leaves I'd guess five full branches of dragons we know nothing about, who have until now not been involved in the war with Ishgard.
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    Draconic, but that doesn't make them Dravanian. We know there are dragons elsewhere on Hydaelyn.
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