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    RMT activity actually has a very drastic impact on players, even if you chose to ignore them, they are still driving up in game inflation. Choose to stick your head in the mud all you want, but if issue never gets addressed, don't expect any sympathy when grade 1 materia are going for 10M gil a piece, and people start using the excuse, "but everyone else is" when you get banned for buying gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    RMT activity actually has a very drastic impact on players, even if you chose to ignore them, they are still driving up in game inflation. Choose to stick your head in the mud all you want, but if issue never gets addressed, don't expect any sympathy when grade 1 materia are going for 10M gil a piece, and people start using the excuse, "but everyone else is" when you get banned for buying gil.
    1) FFXIV's economy is actually pretty stable so far as MMOs go, even with 2 years of constant RMT presence, and it's very likely to stay that way far into the future. Godzilla is more likely to knock on your door and ask for guitar lessons than RMT are to make any appreciable impact to any server's economy. They most certainly wont be causing the kind of inflation that would cause us to see grade 1 materia worth 10m.


    2) People making RMT threads never complain about the potential impact on the economy anyway. Instead they're always foaming at the mouth over /tells and friend requests because being mildly annoyed is super serious matter apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    2) People making RMT threads never complain about the potential impact on the economy anyway. Instead they're always foaming at the mouth over /tells and friend requests because being mildly annoyed is super serious matter apparently.
    It will be a super serious matter when tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of new players unsub from Heavensward because the insane RMT spam is the first thing they see. It is super serious for existing players because they can't even use the private /tell channel to organize anything or talk in private with their friends. This has gone beyond the territory of being a mere annoyance and into the territory of something that ACTUALLY hinders gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    It will be a super serious matter when tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of new players unsub from Heavensward because the insane RMT spam is the first thing they see. It is super serious for existing players because they can't even use the private /tell channel to organize anything or talk in private with their friends. This has gone beyond the territory of being a mere annoyance and into the territory of something that ACTUALLY hinders gameplay.
    I don't think the constant /shout spamming from RMT in beta phases / EA was enough to push people away from the game. I doubt 3 tells / invite per hours will have any more effects on players.

    If they quit because of this, then they just didnt like the game in the first place.
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    Last edited by CUTS3R; 05-02-2015 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUTS3R View Post
    I don't think the constant /shout spamming from RMT in beta phases / EA was enough to push people away from the game. I doubt 3 tells / invite per hours will have any more effects on players.

    If they quit because of this, then they just didnt like the game in the first place.
    3 /tells per hour? Lol. If it were only that many I'd have never complained about RMT in the first place. Please check the spoiler tag below for your viewing pleasure.







    Do you really think new players are going to stay to play the game if they are bombarded with /tells like in these screenshots of mine? In an oversaturated market with plenty of good games to play when they have no attachments whatsoever? No, no they won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
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    I guess that vary depending on your server, its not so bad on moogle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    Do you really think new players are going to stay to play the game if they are bombarded with /tells like in these screenshots of mine?
    I'll say it again, back in beta / EA the RMT spam was constant, like 3 or 4 per second in absolutely every areas in the game, we were all "new players" including me, and look we're still here almost 2 years later for the most part.

    My point is, it was alot worse back then and we went through it because we like this game, if people quit FFXIV because of RMT spam, then theyre just using it as an excuse to quit on a game they didnt like because in the end, RMT impact on the game, is minimal.
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    Last edited by CUTS3R; 05-02-2015 at 02:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUTS3R View Post
    I'll say it again, back in beta / EA the RMT spam was constant, like 3 or 4 per second in absolutely every areas in the game, we were all "new players" including me, and look we're still here almost 2 years later for the most part.

    My point is, it was alot worse back then
    No, it wasn't worse back then. Back then you had a bunch of spammers per city shouting, but as soon as you blacklisted them, there was silence for quite a while. Nowadays they change their names all the time so blacklisting them does not have the same effect it used to, and they spam you with friend requests as well which is something they never did when the game was new, and it's the most annoying part of the spam by far. Since you're clearly on a server where RMT is not as big an issue as it is for many others, please just take our word for it. The RMT issues you hear people complaining about every day are real, and they are severe. Stop trying to discard them, please. Those RMT threads are likely not going to stop until the issue is addressed.
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