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  1. #21
    Player Skeith-Adeline's Avatar
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    Sariena Adeline
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    Zalera
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    So, the best opener is the one Judge noted? Or at least when it comes to Ifrit openers?
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    So, the best opener is the one Judge noted? Or at least when it comes to Ifrit openers?
    That's just the one I use and have good results with when using Ifrit. Although I may end up altering it again, since I've never considered Miasma registering faster than Bio 2 (probably due to it having that initial damage)

    RS, Bio, Rouse/Spur, XPot, Bio2, Miasma, Fester (without delay), Ruin II, Enkindle, ->etc
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 05-02-2015 at 11:51 PM.

  3. #23
    Player Skeith-Adeline's Avatar
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    Sariena Adeline
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    Do you Swiftcast Shadowflare after the last Fester in RS or do you precast Shadowflare?
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    Rinh'sae Poales
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    I'm just doing T1-9 coil! Its like really easy stuff, but my pets are exploding.
    In T6 I remember having issues with the devour mechanic and the boss spinning and bloody caressing my pet when it got sucked in (the briars don't hurt pets), in T7 I always kept my Garuda in the middle and when they nerfed the pets because of Ramuh EX, I noticed she took a lot more damage there from when the floors exploded (but nothing a sustain didn't help), T8 my pet would die if a Mine shot my pet in front of the boss where the tank was and I just didn't notice until it was too late, and T9 I don't recall having much issue aside from when the wall could kill pets.

    All of that is understandable though! You just have to learn to watch out for your pets and adjust their positions accordingly.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    Do you Swiftcast Shadowflare after the last Fester in RS or do you precast Shadowflare?
    I precast shadow flare and just refresh it when it wears off. Which usually after RS falls off.
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  6. #26
    Player Skeith-Adeline's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    I precast shadow flare and just refresh it when it wears off. Which usually after RS falls off.
    Thank you~
    It wasn't as strong as my garuda opener, but jesus it held it's burst much longer than Garuda's.
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    Rebecca Prairillot
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    The only reaons to use garuda now is if you die and are low on mp otherwise use ifrit as you get a massive dps increase, and pets are not made of paper if theyre dieing you need to get good.
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    Avalen Koma
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    I cross referenced several numbers with a SMN friend of mine and we both came to the conclusion that no opener that starts with Garuda and turns to Ifrit regardless of when you make the switch, will come out positive over the course of the encounter with closest being a bio opener with Garuda.
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    Player radioactive_lego's Avatar
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    Viridia Black
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by tikiwiki View Post
    The only reaons to use garuda now is if you die and are low on mp otherwise use ifrit as you get a massive dps increase, and pets are not made of paper if theyre dieing you need to get good.
    Translation to English:
    - Garuda does less damage than Ifrit over time. So unless you're low on MP, Ifrit is your best choice. Also, [incoherent rambling].

    With that cleared up; I prefer Garuda on most AOE-around-the-boss-fights because my Ifrits do seem to die more often. There's a delay when you call him to get him out of an AOE, it seems, so I feel like I'm pressing buttons for him for nothing. If I'm resummoning him occasionally, that's a bigger drop over time than just having 'Ruda by my side.
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    Last edited by radioactive_lego; 05-05-2015 at 03:51 AM.

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