dungeon helpers

[Ghishlain]

Back to the context of this thread where DPS players are healing because they think the SCH is incompetent. The fairy is doing most of the healing in a low level dungeon, and you'd have to try pretty hard to get the fairy to not heal the tank, since the tank is the one taking most of the damage. The fairy can't compensate for poison status, or when the entire party has taken equal amounts of damage. If YOU the healer are actually doing your job, the DPS players should have no reason to try and heal.

That's the entire point of the argument in this thread. Is that bad healers DPS when they should be healing, and bad DPS heal when they should be trying to avoid taking damage in the first place. They are stepping outside of their roles at the expense the party.

Here's a reality-check that Cynfael and Spoekes keep not getting. Just because you disagree with someone, doesn't make them wrong. If you can not justify stepping outside your role in the party, then you don't do it. Your angle is more like "if you're not doing everything to maximize dps, then stop playing."

I've been trying to avoid jumping onto here for a bit just to see how this pans out, but I think I'm going to bring up two points on the bolded section of your quote.

(1) This quote also applies to yourself, Kisai. You disagree with them but it doesn't make them wrong either.

(2) While I don't disagree with your stance, I do note that you only speak half the truth too.

"Healer's primary intent is to keep your party healthy and fighting." I agree with this.

However, let's approach this a different way.

Healer DPS reduces the amount of HP required to complete a fight. Let's say an encounter requires 200 HPS. If Healer DPS reduces a fight by 30 seconds, they've now reduced the amount of healing required by 6,000 HP. So, by contributing DPS in parts of the fight with low healing requirements, a healer is now reducing overall healing requirement via their DPS. This is indirect healing.

And no, healer contribution to DPS isn't small when the healer in question is playing properly. Can it be? Yes, it can, but it's no where near "3%" or "less than 8% of a regular DPS" as you like have noted in other forum posts that claim it to be if the healer knows their stuff.

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My beef with your mindset is you're giving advice to encourage healers to play "completely average". The DPS advice is for a higher level play and will help elevate the healer to the next tier of skill once they can master the art of stance dancing. With that being said, what will then elevate that healer even further is knowing WHEN to stance dance. There will be instances a healer can go ham on DPS and there will be instances where a healer can only really heal and dig their party out of the huge hole. The best healers will have the ability to gauge their party and respond appropriately.