Coeurl & Heavensward

[KobatoAirashii]

Holy poop 1k character limit is bad:

Its hard to help some people when they don't want to help themselves. And in my opinion, that is what is wrong with the server. There are not enough people who want to be leaders. They don't make their own statics because they don't want to commit to a group they're not confident in (and the slightest bit of commitment is apparently terrifying), or they make "farm parties" in PF, hoping people who CAN farm it join (otherwise it flops, which is more often the case).

TL;DR, we have too many indians, and not enough chiefs.

[YuzuxWyrm]

We will stop selling coil to help your cause once we have made 60 million more gil from people buying runs ^_^ good day

[FatherTime]

We will stop selling coil to help your cause once we have made 60 million more gil from people buying runs ^_^ good day

I have to agree with Yuzu on this, the only person making any sense on this topic. I mean that gil is so good!!! ^_^

[LhoirMoshanti]

We will stop selling coil to help your cause once we have made 60 million more gil from people buying runs ^_^ good day

YUZU pls.
As a seller on both servers I'm on, I'm not gonna say I'll ever stop selling runs. Some people just want the gear, that's their idea of fun and don't won't to work for it, more power to them ; more gil to us.

But anyway, I have a decked out scholar still on Coeurl still [Kalli moshanti] and am almost always up to help people out when I'm on, just toss me a tell.

Not gonna lie however, Coeurl is dead endgame wise.

[KobatoAirashii]

There is no reason to stop selling. Other people on other servers wont stop. Honestly, if people don't care about learning and just want the loot, they will buy it. Them selling runs really wont change anything, if people wanna learn they will learn it. Its as simple as that.

[ClaireAbigail]

Not gonna lie however, Coeurl is dead endgame wise.

Nope, it's not dead, if anything it's more of a secret community now. We recruit people through linkshells, not party finder to avoid trolls/people sneaking in. Right now I can name at least 10 statics on top of my head who can farm t13 even before echo and that doesn't even include the ones who are only upto t12,11 or 10. If you wanna be technical and stuff, here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-embarrassing

According to this all of NA's servers endgame population is dead. A COMPLETELY dead endgame would be zalera where only 2 statics cleared t13.

About selling runs, as long as some people have access to gil(legit or not) there will always be lazy people out there and would rather buy their way in.

[YuzuxWyrm]

Oh i was joking why would we ever stop selling lol

[KobatoAirashii]

Yep! I feel the same way Aleister!
A few months back we lost 2 static members, we knew no one at the time to fill those roles, but we went out there to meet people and we were ready to teach anyone that fit in with us anything they needed to know. There are plenty of competent people out there, just have to take the time to find em.
Expansion will bring lots of people and everyone will be back at square one since there is no coil locking them out of the raids. There will be plenty of people looking for groups then. Helping people is fine, I do it every day but going any further then that is just extra in my opinion.