Thread: Relationship between Bahamut and Midgardsomr?

I'm just wondering if there is any relation to them.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

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ACTIVITY TIME: SPOT THE BAHAMUT
(For what it's worth, I believe the white one in the top-left to be Nidhogg - we're down to six)

Based on the benchmark and the Nidhogg fight at the end of it, I think it's more like the bottom one in that picture, with the front facing horns.

Originally Posted by RickiFake02

Based on the benchmark and the Nidhogg fight at the end of it, I think it's more like the bottom one in that picture, with the front facing horns.

There's currently no evidence that the dragon at the end of the benchmark is definitely Nidhogg. We only see it open one eye in the video but in all the concept art of that particular dragon we see it with two eyes. The white one is the only one shown to have a missing eye in the concept art. It's a little confusing to be honest. Either 'could' be Nidhogg depending on interpretation but the white one makes the most sense to me.

Originally Posted by Alberel

There's currently no evidence that the dragon at the end of the benchmark is definitely Nidhogg. We only see it open one eye in the video but in all the concept art of that particular dragon we see it with two eyes. The white one is the only one shown to have a missing eye in the concept art. It's a little confusing to be honest. Either 'could' be Nidhogg depending on interpretation but the white one makes the most sense to me.

Um, in case you haven't noticed, the white one has been shown to have both eyes in concept art as well. The left eye (which is missing in one concept) is clearly visible in the concept art of all 8 Dragons. The black dragon on the other hand, we have seen an in-game model of, and it is clearly missing the right eye - even though the concept art of all the Dragons, shows it's right eye. Now either the 8 Dragons concept art has been mirrored, or we need to just completely disregard all concept art in this case.

Originally Posted by DarthSanguine

Um, in case you haven't noticed, the white one has been shown to have both eyes in concept art as well. The left eye (which is missing in one concept) is clearly visible in the concept art of all 8 Dragons. The black dragon on the other hand, we have seen an in-game model of, and it is clearly missing the right eye - even though the concept art of all the Dragons, shows it's right eye. Now either the 8 Dragons concept art has been mirrored, or we need to just completely disregard all concept art in this case.

Actually in the concept art of all eight the white dragon has a dark grey/black socket where its eye should be. Most of them have white or yellow in their eyes which makes it easy to tell they do indeed have eyes, but the white one and a couple of others are ambiguous.

Having an eye socket does not mean he has an eye. It's not like he's going to wear an eye patch. It's also entirely possible more than one dragon is missing an eye!

The other concept piece is very explicit in showing the white dragon's missing eye anyway. That same piece is also the one primarily used in the marketing posters at events as well which suggests he's the main antagonist (they've always primarily featured the antagonist in the marketing images for each release). There's also the issue of SE revealing a major storyline fight in a pre-release trailer... that would be a bit of a stupid move in my opinion and I find it more likely the dragon in the benchmark is a minor boss fight at most. Recall the 2.0 benchmark culminated in the Tam Tara boss which was a very early boss fight in the 2.0 story.

Here's a pic of Midardsomnr and his children. The middle one is midgardsomnar....can't make out the rest.



We know that Middy was the 1st dragon in the world. He had 7 children. Meracydian dragons worshipped Bahamut as being "one of the 1st brood" that spawn their clan.

It was said that we'll meet his 7 children throughout the story, so it's possible that Bahamut was a child one of Middy's kids.

I did see a translation of an interview that listed Bahamut as one of the seven wyrmlords in Heavensward along with Tiamat and Nidhogg. Judging by that Id say that the original Bahamut was indeed one of Midgardsormr's children. My guess is that he either died and a primal form of him was summoned or he was turned into a primal.

There is nothing saying all 7 celestial dragons are still alive.

It was Yoshida's PAX East interview with Famitsu. Bahamut is one of the seven, but became a Primal for reason's we'll get to see in a side-story come Heavensward. Curious to see how that story will tie into Final Coil, though, since we have gotten some pretty big reveals already.

Could just end up like CT to Coil, though, where the WoL already knows the answer but just lets the Scholar-Sidekick-of-the-Week stand around looking puzzled for a bit before moving on.