Thoughts on Isgard Lockout.

[Zohar_Lahar]

I really don't think this will be a problem. The game already encourages multi-classing due to cross-class skills and Job unlock requirements, if it's really too much of a deal-breaker then perhaps the game isn't for them.

[LunaHoshino]

I seriously question someone's interest in the game as a whole if there isn't a single one of the existing ten classes that looks even slightly interesting to them.

[Welsper59]

At no point has SE called these "advanced" jobs. As far as anyone knows at this point, the new jobs are neither more powerful nor more complex than the jobs we have currently.

This is a very poor argument.

As for "players who won't try because they can't play DRK" meaning they're flaky players... So what? Flaky or not, that's money not going into SE's pockets that could be going there. Strikes me as bad business. Even if they don't stick around to keep the subscription money flowing in, that initial investment shouldn't be taken lightly.

I don't like the idea that a game that I'm so invested in is being head by folks with poor business sense. I want the game to thrive, not fail.

If you really think sacrificing creative freedoms (and thus affecting the existing player base negatively) for a few thousand dollars of profit (compared to MILLIONS already coming in monthly) is good business sense, you're destined to fail lol. You might be drastically overestimating the amount of people this affects negatively.

[Blueyes]

I can understand why people would consider locking jobs behind a large amount of leveling and story content to be an "okay" thing to do, but what continues to baffle me is why people think that decision is better than allowing these jobs to be accessible at level 30. (Please note that I'm not saying Ishgard at level 30. Just the jobs.) How would that in any way harm the game? If the answer is to motivate players to play though the Realm Reborn story, that incentive is not removed by allowing earlier access to these jobs. There is still plenty of other content that (reasonably) follows the completion of that story to motivate players.

Also I'll add a link to where this topic had been discussion at length. The topic died and I'm okay with that. I mostly wanted to reach Dev attention and I'm sure it succeeded at that despite no response. Many people voiced their opinions and as it turned out most people on the forum could care less. Supposedly that makes the decision good business practice. In any case the planned requirement is likely to stay and I hope in the future they think very carefully about the way they implement new jobs.

[Spawnie]

i got a friend who only played a month when brought ARR hes been excited about dark knight that much hes planning to come back a month b4 heavenward is released so can catch up on content so ready for heavensward... so why doesnt your friend do exactly the same??

honestly only problem i have with new jobs is they arent starting from level 1 being locked behind story content is fine with me.. its silly people want it to be available outside ishgard cause they start at 30 ._. so inotherwords get level 10 --> go to area dark knight trainer is located --> get free level 30 job with no effort involved lol

[Suda]

I can understand why people would consider locking jobs behind a large amount of leveling and story content to be an "okay" thing to do, but what continues to baffle me is why people think that decision is better than allowing these jobs to be accessible at level 30. (Please note that I'm not saying Ishgard at level 30. Just the jobs.) How would that in any way harm the game? If the answer is to motivate players to play though the Realm Reborn story, that incentive is not removed by allowing earlier access to these jobs. There is still plenty of other content that (reasonably) follows the completion of that story to motivate players.

I'm ok with it because we don't actually know how the new jobs play yet. For all we know these jobs are in fact advanced jobs and could be harder to play. Will they be? Probably not... but SE hasn't really shown us anything on them. I'm hoping they go into more detail on the new jobs in the upcoming LL.

[Burningskull]

I can understand locking Ishgard out for lore reasons, so perhaps I shouldn't have brought that up in the original post. I don't think it's a good idea to lock out the jobs tho since you can unlock every other job at lvl 30. But that's just my opinion.

I don't expect a game change or anything like that. I just started the thread as a discussion over weather it "should" be that way or not.

[hairpinlegs]

It's possible experience gains from 1-50 could be increased, cutting down the time to Level 50 down to a week possibly, making it easier for new players to access Level 50 story quests.

[Dalvy]

To me, it's just like being locked out of expansion content in any game. You had to be a certain level or complete a certain quest in order to enter the expac zones, use expac items, etc.

[saber_alter]

Though i don't like the fact i won't be able to go through with re-rolling, running over to ishgard at 30 and moving on up...i'm okay with it.

just means i won't make a new character.