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    Burningskull's Avatar
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    Markov Dracul
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thoughts on Isgard Lockout.

    I was thinking the other day, do you think the new job quests will be started in Ishgard since you can't step foot inside the city till you finish 2.55? That seems odd to me with how accessible they try to make things to new players. For example...

    A new player joins the game, lvls to 30, and wants to play a... Machinist... but they can't because you have to unlock that job from a quest that starts in Ishgard, which you can't get to till you finish 2.55 story line, which requires lvl 50.

    This kinda made me think that the new job quests would actually start in the main cities, or at the least Coerthus.

    I also think they shouldn't lock Ishgard it's self behind 2.55, just the main story quests, and side quests that might involve the main story.

    What do you guys think? (Sorry if topic has been made before)
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    Skadi Felis
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    You have to unlock the city before you can enter it, like you have to unlock dungeons.
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-01-2015 at 04:21 AM.

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    Gralna's Avatar
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    Gralya Arodica
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    I think people are forgetting how fast it is to lvl up in this game, took me 23 days from EA to finish 2.0 storyline, with watching cutscenes, so 30 days roughly to complete up to 2.55.

    In FFXI to unlock advanced jobs you needed to get to lvl 30, which took about 1-3 months depending on your playstyle and when you joined game (later expansions made it faster, as I'm sure later XIV expansion also will).

    Biggest roadblock I see is the storyline duties, but Yoshi already said they are going to add feature to allow us to queue into duties with parties of less than 4 with Heavensward.
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    Jasla Angelkin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    I think people are forgetting how fast it is to lvl up in this game, took me 23 days from EA to finish 2.0 storyline, with watching cutscenes, so 30 days roughly to complete up to 2.55.

    In FFXI to unlock advanced jobs you needed to get to lvl 30, which took about 1-3 months depending on your playstyle and when you joined game (later expansions made it faster, as I'm sure later XIV expansion also will).

    Biggest roadblock I see is the storyline duties, but Yoshi already said they are going to add feature to allow us to queue into duties with parties of less than 4 with Heavensward.
    Even with cutscenes I could see someone getting to 50 in less than a week. EXP is really easy and with main story quests it keeps it going fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    Even with cutscenes I could see someone getting to 50 in less than a week. EXP is really easy and with main story quests it keeps it going fast.
    I could easily see that too, since launch they've added low lvl roulette, and challenge log, both which vastly decrease time it takes to lvl up. Plus at 2.0 launch there were so many issues with just getting online, from getting 3107 for 2-5 hours straight, to constant maint, plus no guides being out on how to complete anything. I feel my 30 day estimate is very liberal for how long it should take a new player to get into Ishgard.
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    Even with cutscenes I could see someone getting to 50 in less than a week. EXP is really easy and with main story quests it keeps it going fast.
    Level 50 in a week, sure. Complete the story line up to 2.55 to enter, yeah right. Playing 24/7 and staying sane, doubtful.
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    I think it will greatly punish new players. However I don't care since I have it unlocked on both my toons. So it doesn't affect me! HAHA!

    I really don't care about SE's bad decisions on dungeons and lockouts now. Fanboys will love it regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I think it will greatly punish new players.

    How dose it punish? Can't do the new stuff at level 1 20 or 30 so how dose it punish I wish people would stop complaining on this because it's for story purpose for crying out loud. Its also going to help keeping rmts and bots out of the new areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    How dose it punish? Can't do the new stuff at level 1 20 or 30 so how dose it punish I wish people would stop complaining on this because it's for story purpose for crying out loud. Its also going to help keeping rmts and bots out of the new areas.
    Nothing in the game is dynamic. All your doing is extending a script someone made since nothing changes.

    See all those black mages running around? Probably doing the story over/over for gems? Scripts.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 05-01-2015 at 05:10 AM.

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    Marcus Deston
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Nothing in the game is dynamic. All your doing is extending a script someone made since nothing changes.
    Stone Vigil HM last boss, and Thornmarch both HM and EX would like to have a word with you.

    Even if DRK was available to play in 2.0, Bluevann's friend would have had to play on a different class up to 30 before he'd be able to pick up DRK. It just sounds like he's unwilling to try something different because he's so fixated on this one type of weapon. I'd hate to hear how he'd react to having to get cross-class abilities even if he were able to start as DRK.
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