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    Please Allow 50's to Enter Ishgard w/o having completed MSQ

    Somebody mentioned before that they like to play this game to be a crafter or gatherer... and that up until Heavensward, they could effectively do so with very minimal combat required... forcing them through MSQ (in doing so, forcing them to play a combat class deep into lvl. 50 content)... I highly dislike that direction.

    As well, not everybody plays this game for the story. It's great that you want to push the story SE, but this being a themepark MMO & offering many avenues of play... I think you should offer an alternative way into Ishgard for 50's.

    I know there are story-ties to getting into Ishgard... but other ways can be made... example:

    A gatherer in search of legendary Ishgardian spoils is sent on an epic voyage to Ishgard through alternate means, etc.

    Please give us a minor sidequest arc to get into Ishgard from 50 w/o MSQ entirety fulfillment.

    This will only benefit the game, newcomers, & recent players. Win-win-win.
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    I feel sorry for new players who have to go through the entire main quest just to get into the expansion.
    I have done the mainquest 3 times with my 3 characters and for someone who doesn't enjoy the story at all it's worse than farming relic weapons.
    I'm serious I'd rather farm relic for all jobs than doing the main quest 3 times.

    Soo yes I agree with you, they need to find some way to skip it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    I feel sorry for new players who have to go through the entire main quest just to get into the expansion.
    I have done the mainquest 3 times with my 3 characters and for someone who doesn't enjoy the story at all it's worse than farming relic weapons.
    I'm serious I'd rather farm relic for all jobs than doing the main quest 3 times.

    Soo yes I agree with you, they need to find some way to skip it
    There's a really easy solution to that problem. Don't play alts. There's no need to play one so anything you don't enjoy as a result of playing an alt is something you're forcing on yourself, it's not the game's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    There's a really easy solution to that problem. Don't play alts. There's no need to play one so anything you don't enjoy as a result of playing an alt is something you're forcing on yourself, it's not the game's fault.
    Actually I have to play alts to manage my inventory. I want every kind of unique gear, so that I can change my outfit as I see fit.
    SE keeps adding new gear but they don't add new inventory space, therefore I need to make new characters with other jobs my main don't play so I can have them all.

    Also there are Miqote, lalafellin, hyur, elezen, rogadeuyn (I cant spell that one) and soon Au Ra, if the game was meant for one character only there would only be one race.

    Mainly because I like having personalities for my characters. So because I am playing the RPG part of an mmoRPG I need to do the main quest and all the silly trials again and again, even if i've already done them and I find them rubbish and boring?
    I find that silly. Everyone keeps saying it's a theme park mmo, but they are still gating new players and they need to do all the old stuff to get to the new stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    Actually I have to play alts to manage my inventory. I want every kind of unique gear, so that I can change my outfit as I see fit.
    SE keeps adding new gear but they don't add new inventory space, therefore I need to make new characters with other jobs my main don't play so I can have them all.

    Also there are Miqote, lalafellin, hyur, elezen, rogadeuyn (I cant spell that one) and soon Au Ra, if the game was meant for one character only there would only be one race.

    Mainly because I like having personalities for my characters. So because I am playing the RPG part of an mmoRPG I need to do the main quest and all the silly trials again and again, even if i've already done them and I find them rubbish and boring?
    I find that silly. Everyone keeps saying it's a theme park mmo, but they are still gating new players and they need to do all the old stuff to get to the new stuff
    A Themepark MMO can gate things.

    What you want is a Sandbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    Actually I have to play alts to manage my inventory. I want every kind of unique gear, so that I can change my outfit as I see fit.
    SE keeps adding new gear but they don't add new inventory space, therefore I need to make new characters with other jobs my main don't play so I can have them all.

    Also there are Miqote, lalafellin, hyur, elezen, rogadeuyn (I cant spell that one) and soon Au Ra, if the game was meant for one character only there would only be one race.

    Mainly because I like having personalities for my characters. So because I am playing the RPG part of an mmoRPG I need to do the main quest and all the silly trials again and again, even if i've already done them and I find them rubbish and boring?
    I find that silly. Everyone keeps saying it's a theme park mmo, but they are still gating new players and they need to do all the old stuff to get to the new stuff
    Well again you're choosing to play multiple characters when you don't actually need to. Mules don't need to be leveled to be able to hold inventory so that argument is pointless. If you're a RP that wants to play multiple characters... well you kinda picked the wrong game unfortunately. This game is built on playing a single character. You can't really complain if you choose to play in a way that was not intended.

    By the way content gating and themepark MMOs are not mutually exclusive. I really don't get why people keep spouting that one. Go play any themepark MMO out there and I guarantee you'll find content gating of some kind. You do not just go and kill the final boss of the story as soon as you reach the level cap, in any MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Well again you're choosing to play multiple characters when you don't actually need to. Mules don't need to be leveled to be able to hold inventory so that argument is pointless. If you're a RP that wants to play multiple characters... well you kinda picked the wrong game unfortunately. This game is built on playing a single character. You can't really complain if you choose to play in a way that was not intended.

    By the way content gating and themepark MMOs are not mutually exclusive. I really don't get why people keep spouting that one. Go play any themepark MMO out there and I guarantee you'll find content gating of some kind. You do not just go and kill the final boss of the story as soon as you reach the level cap, in any MMO.
    I see your point, and I understand how the game works. I just don't agree with it.
    But I like the aesthetics of the game, the outfits and that's mainly why I'm still playing. Glamours are my end game.

    I just think that gating everything isn't a good idea. You wanna dye your hair or get a new haircut? Need to do a quest, going to a normal hairdresser isnt an option for some reason
    Wanna dye your clothes? Need to do a quest (I guess you need to learn how to do it, but there could be npc that would do it for you instead)
    Wanna enter gold saucer? Need to do a quest (I didn't read this quest so I don't know the reason why you need to do a quest for it)
    Wanna use glamour prisms? (Need to do a quest, and be level 50, I don't even wanna comment this one.)

    And now, new expansion they could make it a new story so that players reaching level 50 could choose if they wanted to do the level 50 main quests or not.

    I'm already done with the main quests on my three characters so it doesn't affect me, I just think it hurts new players when they have to do it all while all the other players are doing the new relevant content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    There's a really easy solution to that problem. Don't play alts. There's no need to play one so anything you don't enjoy as a result of playing an alt is something you're forcing on yourself, it's not the game's fault.
    Considering I *have* completed the story line on 3 of my 8 characters to 2.55.... ;P I have absolutely *no* issue with the way it it right now.
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    Uhh no, thats just being lazy, you should have to go through the main quest completely before entering. The story wouldn't make any sense otherwise....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    I feel sorry for new players who have to go through the entire main quest just to get into the expansion.
    Yes, how horrible it must be for a new player to try out FFXIV, find themselves thinking "this game fun enough to subscribe to and continue playing" and then having loads of untouched content ahead of them to enjoy. Clearly the core game is trash and the only game worth playing rests beyond the borders of Ishgard.
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