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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuukishi View Post
    Uh huh. If he had to make up a reason like that, he probably just didn't want to play the game in the first place.
    Seriously. If you're that flaky to start the game, in that a solitary reason like that is enough to make you not want to play, you most likely wouldn't have stuck around or enjoyed yourself beyond a couple weeks. Source: Three different people I know IRL who felt the same way about the original classes/jobs. One didn't even get far enough to unlock the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Seriously. If you're that flaky to start the game, in that a solitary reason like that is enough to make you not want to play, you most likely wouldn't have stuck around or enjoyed yourself beyond a couple weeks. Source: Three different people I know IRL who felt the same way about the original classes/jobs. One didn't even get far enough to unlock the job.
    Well, its money to start the game, money for the new race and expansion. Of course they are flaky if they have to pretty much grind through a bunch of stuff just to access current content. Imagine Steps of Faith a year from now for a new player... yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Well, its money to start the game, money for the new race and expansion. Of course they are flaky if they have to pretty much grind through a bunch of stuff just to access current content. Imagine Steps of Faith a year from now for a new player... yeah.
    Solo queue with chocobo and GC soldiers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Well, its money to start the game, money for the new race and expansion. Of course they are flaky if they have to pretty much grind through a bunch of stuff just to access current content. Imagine Steps of Faith a year from now for a new player... yeah.
    I don't think you get the point of that. It means they don't like the content they play (i.e. the game in general). It means that they can't even accept the fact that there are going to be things that happen that you may not enjoy (if you truly think all forms of entertainment are guaranteed to be 100% fun, enthralling, and at a high point, you'll be sorely disappointed with practically everything in life). Furthermore, why would a new player WANT to skip everything just to get to new content? To a new player, old content IS new... hence new player. Now, if they're the sort to want to rush to endgame, well that's already a step in the wrong direction (i.e. self destruction) when you play this game. If you're not prepared for the grind, or rather not prepared to play an MMORPG, then like I said, you're not going to last.

    Besides that, the nice thing about MMORPGs is that old content can change (example: devs looking into NPCs to run old dungeons with, nerfs, etc). If Steps of Faith becomes practically impossible to complete, they'll change that... and I'd imagine quite fast, if it hit a point where nearly every new player couldn't manage a PF/friends/DF clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    I don't think you get the point of that. It means they don't like the content they play (i.e. the game in general). It means that they can't even accept the fact that there are going to be things that happen that you may not enjoy.
    In most games though, if you don't enjoy something you have the choice of skipping it or doing it differently. However, whose to say that they wouldn't enjoy something? We wouldn't know, and they wouldn't know because they never got the chance to not do it.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Well, its money to start the game, money for the new race and expansion. Of course they are flaky if they have to pretty much grind through a bunch of stuff just to access current content. Imagine Steps of Faith a year from now for a new player... yeah.
    Castrum Meridianum is 1 1/2 years old and people still do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    My new friend who was finally going to join me on XIV changed his mind because of this (he wanted to be DRK for the 2.0 scenario). >_< Not happy!
    Can't unlock it till level 30 anyway. So it doesn't really matter. Seems like a poor excuse to write the entire game off and he just didn't want to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Can't unlock it till level 30 anyway. So it doesn't really matter. Seems like a poor excuse to write the entire game off and he just didn't want to be honest.
    you need to be level 50 with a item level of 90 to finish the story because new jobs are locked behind Isgaurd and this is fine because Isgaurd is locked for story and lore reasons.

    Dark knight- Isgaurd corrupt prist and knight hunter.

    Machinist - gunners that are now taking a more active presence in the dravana war because they can't replace dragoons fast enough.

    Astralagon- reads the stars to predict the future they do this in Isgaurd because dragons live for over a thousand years so only way to get intelligence on them.


    All these are Isgaurd related can't start as one of them can't unlock till you go in Isgaurd its like saying you going to go and be a doctor with out first going to high school college and Harvard school for medicine.
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    Last edited by Dererk; 05-01-2015 at 05:17 AM.

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    Chen Kotomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Can't unlock it till level 50 anyway. So it doesn't really matter. Seems like a poor excuse to write the entire game off and he just didn't want to be honest.
    Fixed it for you.
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    snippity
    So your friend didn't want to play without a greatsword class, even though he loved the story that he never played because he couldn't play it as a greatsword class? I don't think he was really that excited about the game. Sounds like he just has a possibly-insane fascination with greatswords. If a game features a weapon ascetic you like, that's one reason to enjoy it, but it's really weird that that's his only selling point.

    Of course, I'm sure you would never just make this story up or anything.
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