Thoughts on Isgard Lockout.

[Burningskull]

I was thinking the other day, do you think the new job quests will be started in Ishgard since you can't step foot inside the city till you finish 2.55? That seems odd to me with how accessible they try to make things to new players. For example...

A new player joins the game, lvls to 30, and wants to play a... Machinist... but they can't because you have to unlock that job from a quest that starts in Ishgard, which you can't get to till you finish 2.55 story line, which requires lvl 50.

This kinda made me think that the new job quests would actually start in the main cities, or at the least Coerthus.

I also think they shouldn't lock Ishgard it's self behind 2.55, just the main story quests, and side quests that might involve the main story.

What do you guys think? (Sorry if topic has been made before)

[Felis]

You have to unlock the city before you can enter it, like you have to unlock dungeons.

[Gralna]

I think people are forgetting how fast it is to lvl up in this game, took me 23 days from EA to finish 2.0 storyline, with watching cutscenes, so 30 days roughly to complete up to 2.55.

In FFXI to unlock advanced jobs you needed to get to lvl 30, which took about 1-3 months depending on your playstyle and when you joined game (later expansions made it faster, as I'm sure later XIV expansion also will).

Biggest roadblock I see is the storyline duties, but Yoshi already said they are going to add feature to allow us to queue into duties with parties of less than 4 with Heavensward.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

I think it will greatly punish new players. However I don't care since I have it unlocked on both my toons. So it doesn't affect me! HAHA!

I really don't care about SE's bad decisions on dungeons and lockouts now. Fanboys will love it regardless.

[DragonFlyy]

I think people are forgetting how fast it is to lvl up in this game, took me 23 days from EA to finish 2.0 storyline, with watching cutscenes, so 30 days roughly to complete up to 2.55.

In FFXI to unlock advanced jobs you needed to get to lvl 30, which took about 1-3 months depending on your playstyle and when you joined game (later expansions made it faster, as I'm sure later XIV expansion also will).

Biggest roadblock I see is the storyline duties, but Yoshi already said they are going to add feature to allow us to queue into duties with parties of less than 4 with Heavensward.

Even with cutscenes I could see someone getting to 50 in less than a week. EXP is really easy and with main story quests it keeps it going fast.

[Suda]

I'm ok with it. Thats because me and my friends are currently up to date and ready though. If I was told I had to do it to unlock jobs in the expansion I would have subbed and finished the main quests anyway.

[Ryuukishi]

My new friend who was finally going to join me on XIV changed his mind because of this (he wanted to be DRK for the 2.0 scenario). >_< Not happy!

Uh huh. If he had to make up a reason like that, he probably just didn't want to play the game in the first place.

[LineageRazor]

What do you guys think? (Sorry if topic has been made before)

Yeah, this topic has been covered many times. I, personally, think that locking the jobs behind Main Scenario completion was a terrible idea, and alienates new players. Others disagree, and feel that locking some jobs serves as a nice reward to incentivize players to get through the Main Scenario content.

There's no "do you think" about it, though. It's happening. It's real. Yoshi P explicitly stated that you will need to be able to access Ishgard to access the new job quests, and that you will need to complete Main Scenario to access Ishgard.

This means completing all of the dungeons and trials that are part of the Main Scenario, obtaining equipment with an ilvl of AT LEAST 90 (preferably much higher), and leveling your class up to 50 (preferably also leveling other classes for cross-class skills, and learning how to play your class well). For folks in support of the lock, I feel that they tend to vastly downplay the amount of time and effort it takes to achieve all this.

[Gralna]

Even with cutscenes I could see someone getting to 50 in less than a week. EXP is really easy and with main story quests it keeps it going fast.

I could easily see that too, since launch they've added low lvl roulette, and challenge log, both which vastly decrease time it takes to lvl up. Plus at 2.0 launch there were so many issues with just getting online, from getting 3107 for 2-5 hours straight, to constant maint, plus no guides being out on how to complete anything. I feel my 30 day estimate is very liberal for how long it should take a new player to get into Ishgard.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Uh huh. If he had to make up a reason like that, he probably just didn't want to play the game in the first place.

Not really. Its common sense actually miss.

I could easily see that too, since launch they've added low lvl roulette..

Which still is an anti-social stupid feature that doesn't allow you to play with friends.